I noticed that Linux server distros are using LVM as default. What is so good about LVM, and when should I use it? Is there a GUI for managing LVM volumes like GParted, or is it just through the terminal? How is it different from RAID in using multiple drives for one volume?
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interesting facts about LVM:
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You can make a volume snapshot of the system before a major change (for example, an update).
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You can enable caching and use HDD together with SSD cache
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You can build raid 0,1,5 directly on LVM (you still need modules from mdraid)
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Even without a raid, you can expand the partition beyond one disk to another or migrate the partition from disk to disk (without even disabling it)
However, all this is done from the console and I do not know if there is a GUI.
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Something that LVM supports but ZFS and BTRFS don’t, is the ability to reduce your storage. (That is, to empty and remove a drive from the array, without having to completely destroy the storage array.) As a home user without sufficient storage to have complete duplicates of everything, I find this an important feature.
Just so you know: btrfs can do that too Takes a while to evacuate a device and the tools are not great at reporting progress, but it does work.
I did not know that, last I looked it was still in development, I believe.
Just so you know: btrfs can do that too Takes a while to evacuate a device and the tools are not great at reporting progress, but it does work.
LVM is just a way more flexible partition table. It gives you the possibility to grow partitions at a later date. You probably not think you can do that with MBR or GPT too. Well yes, but only when the spare room is adjacent to the partition you want to grow. With LVM you can grow partitions even if the free space is somewhere else on the disk.
So you can grow any disk ‘partition’ at any time as long as you have some free space in the group.
Another advantage is that you can encrypt logical volumes easily. Usually that’s supported when you install the OS.
You can also stack LVM on top of a software RAID, so you can create a mdadm from a disk partition of several disks and create a VG on that with LVs to spilt it into pieces.
I usually use LVM on every server. There is no need not to and gives you options for the future.
LVM is a bit more complicated than just using a normal partition, but it does add a lot of functionality. If you need to make an LVM volume bigger, you can just add another disk to the volume. You can also do RAID like stuff with it. Live resizing of volumes is doable too.
I think some LVM stuff can be done in Disks, but I generally just use the command line. Smarter people, are there graphical LVM utilities I don’t know about?
In addition to those things you can also thin provision lvm volumes which is helpful sometimes and it even has built in caching. It really is just a much more flexible way of using a disk, it is not an an analog for RAID, you would typically use a RAID volume with LVM on top.
Works the other way too, can do a LVM with RAID underneath. I currently use LVM raid 5 with XFS underneath. Though all the news around bcachefs has got me pretty excited to go that route and cut out the LVM middleware.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
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0/10 no LVM lol
can you stack btrfs on top of LVM? is there any advantage of doing so?
right now i have each docker volume mapped to a btrfs volume, so that i can snapshot the volume and send it away.
can i replicate the same thing with LVM and ext4 for example?
i’m mostly interested in the ssd as cache feature and the possibility of just adding more disks. Stuffs that are not possible in my current setup.
Opensuse can do this. Well put btrfs on LVM that is. I found out with my tumbleweed installs that if i use disk encryption and no LVM i do not have the option to boot from btrfs snapshots. Also with LUKS you need to type in your password twice when booting if you dont use LVM.
Slightly off tangent, but if you are thinking you might need LVM features (other than disk encryption) then it is worth looking into filesystems that have most of the functionality built in, like btrfs or OpenZFS.
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Just move to BTRFS and enjoy it all without LVM.
