• teft
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    1457 months ago

    Luke at 23 - Jedi Master

    Anakin at 23 - Not a Jedi Master

  • Flying Squid
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    657 months ago

    On the other hand, he didn’t get two of his limbs chopped off and end up thrown into a pit of lava a short time later, requiring him to spend the rest of his life in an armored suit. So maybe the incest was worth it?

    • @M500@lemmy.ml
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      137 months ago

      I could be wrong, but I read someone else’s comment years ago that said the suit was like that on purpose and it was a way for the emperor to control him or something.

      Anyway, that might not even be canon even if it’s in some book or game.

      • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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        17 months ago

        It’s canon. The suit was purposefully made in a very flawed way, so that Vader would have a difficult time winning a battle against Sidious. Even in his crippled state, Vader was a major threat. Also, it’s not entirely clear why it happens in-universe, but Vader’s burnt body was supposed to heal over time, yet it never did - not until Luke brought back a spark of goodness in his heart.

        • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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          The Death Star was huge, I’m sure people fucked and made babies on it. I doubt they would just let people leave the Death Star to go raise their kids. That either means kids were just ejected into space, or they were raised on the Death Star.

          Given Darth Vader’s history with children, it’s not unlikely that he just said “fuck them kids” and had them yeeted, but it’s funnier to imagine a Death Star Day Care, so imma go with that as my head canon.

          Edit: you guys are coming up with some valid counterpoints, but my head canon is still funnier, so I’m sticking with it.

            • Cosmic Cleric
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              87 months ago

              I was in a band called Death Star Daycare.

              That’s, actually, not bad, at all.

              Although I’m sure the Disney attorneys would probably have some issues with that name, potentially.

          • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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            I mean, he was also a Jedi, so separating kids from their parents is pretty par for the course. Maybe they were simply sent off to Empire training camp boarding school.

          • @22decembre@lemmy.world
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            27 months ago

            You can bet genetic engineering has reached a level where you can sterilize your whole army without a concern.

            So soldiers fucking like rabbits ? Maybe. All genders ? Maybe, we have no idea whether there were women onboard. BUt did they get pregnant ? Why bother ?

    • @RGB3x3@lemmy.world
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      97 months ago

      “Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?”

      “We’re gonna SIIING!”

  • zeekaran
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    437 months ago

    Luke at 22: Blew up the Death Star

    Kinda big thing to not include

  • @TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
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    Guys can we please not make comparisons like this? Everybody is on their own life journey at their own pace. Anakin was taken in to be the apprentice of a great Jedi master when he was but a wee lad, luke had no opportunities beyond farming dirt and constructing additional pylons with his aunt and uncle well into adulthood.

    These types of comparisons are unfair and unhealthy and promote unrealistic expectations on young impressionable minds.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      17 months ago

      I asked Luke Skywalker and he said he is okay with this meme. Oddly, I couldn’t get in touch with his father.

  • @DragonTypeWyvern
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    Tbf, they both made out with a princess, and while Anakin mostly farmed bots for exp Luke’s actual KDA was amazing.

      • eric
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        147 months ago

        I don’t think so. The Death Star was a military vessel, and spouses/children don’t usually don’t get to come along on those sorts of things. Having said that, maybe there would be some children on if there was some sort of christening celebration or school field trip on board at the time of the attack.

    • Cethin
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      207 months ago

      He lost because he was arrogant, not because he was weak. That’s the entire point of the “it’s over Anakin, I have the high ground” thing.

        • @embed_me@programming.dev
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          Why wouldn’t you include mental character as part of your performance? It matters quite a lot in competitive sports, but what do i know I didn’t watch star wars

    • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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      You’ve just signaled you don’t understand Star Wars’ plot, prepare for a deluge of explanations.

      In short, Anakin was emotionally unstable during his battle against Obi-Wan. Under normal circumstances, he’d wipe the floor with his master. In the making of accounts and Star War History books, both George Lucas and Nick Gillard (choreographer for all fights before Disneyfication) confirm that Anakin was an equal to Yoda and Sidious at the end of RotS, far surpassing Mace Windu and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
      As a fun aside, in the animated series The Clone Wars, we get a glimpse at Anakin’s full potential - the ability to control all of the force at once, even swapping day for night on a whim.

      • @Lionel@endlesstalk.org
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        77 months ago

        Mace windu was actually strong as fuck though. Like he genuinely bested sidious in saber combat. It wasn’t an act.

        Also, I read once that obi wan and anakin were so used to sparring together that the difference in power didn’t matter.

        • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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          57 months ago

          Mace windu was actually strong as fuck though. Like he genuinely bested sidious in saber combat. It wasn’t an act.

          The advantage of Vaapad, using Sidious own dark side powers against him.

          I read once that obi wan and anakin were so used to sparring together that the difference in power didn’t matter.

          It certainly did matter, as seen in their final (RotS) duel; Obi-Wan is on his back foot, running the entire time. It’s true that they had sparred so much, they could predict each other’s movements as if it was telepathy, though.

      • @One_Honest_Dude@lemmy.world
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        17 months ago

        Anakin was emotionally unstable during his battle against Obi-Wan

        Surely being emotionally unstable is a major sign of a bad Jedi. Obi-wan had as much reason to be emotionally unstable but maintained control and won the day, thus is the stronger Jedi.

        • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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          37 months ago

          That doesn’t follow at all. At that point Anakin had already abandoned the Jedi Order, he was just learning how to tap into the Dark Side, and even then Obi-Wan was kept on his back foot for the entire time, until Anakin decided that killing his master with a move created by him was a good idea.

          • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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            27 months ago

            Yeah they mean his power comes mostly from anger and anger is a dark side power so not a Jedi. He could have been the most powerful grey Jedi of all time but he will not ever be the most powerful light Jedi.

        • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          27 months ago

          Not to mention being so easily manipulated into turning and then immediately diving in to his new role to the point of killing younglings and force choking his wife. He was very weak mentally and incredibly immature. He was powerful but wasn’t a master for a very good reason.

  • @MissJinx@lemmy.world
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    207 months ago

    I had a friend that “trained” french kissing on her brother. She told me this when we were +25 like it was super nornal and one of the pluses of having a brother (he was 1 year young only, so he wasn’t being abused. They were just like this)

    • Qwerty-Space
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      47 months ago

      I suppose “expecting father” is probably the more accurate phrase