FCC chair wants to boost broadband standard to 100Mbps::First refresh of minimums in eight years for the country that invented the internet

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        But what if it costs $95/mo, there are no alternatives and the price has nearly doubled in 10 years from $55?

        I sure don’t feel that great.

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        I had 2Mbps (yes, bits, not bytes) until 2020. Then I moved out. Pretty sure that my parents house still only gets that same speed. And this is in fucking Germany, a pretty densely populated country.

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          As a Swede, I usually get well above 3 Mbit/s on 3G, and I have a 100/100 Mbit/s fiber that I often use to its full potential, and that’s with a VPN on. I really thought Germany had better infrastructure.

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          I’m sure I’d get a faster speed than that in a piece of string.

          Honestly that sounds like the cable was damaged, was that really the actual target speed?

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      It depends. I grew up in the country and my parents still have to use phone hotspots for internet which works well for streaming but forget about any gaming. I live in a fairly major metropolitan city now and my internet is pretty good, although I’ve noticed my download speeds get throttled sometimes

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      It can be, but I live in a semi-rural neighborhood outside of a town that doesn’t even have 100,000 people and I’m still getting 400/400 on fiber (and can get higher speeds if I want to pay for them).

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      In rural areas, yes.

      In cities, Gigabit internet is abundant and only mildly expensive. Here in Phoenix I pay $60/mo for 1 Gbps down, 50 Mbps up with no bandwidth cap from Verizon. Not the best but far from “awful”.

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    If you’re going to initiate a new rollout of tech, why rollout already out of date stuff? Just mandate fibre to the prem and 1 gigabit minimum from the start. It will take 15 years to complete anyway!

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      where i live my choices are fixed beam wireless internet that caps out at about 75mbps, at&t dsl that caps at 10mbps, satellite or i guess Starlink

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          super healthy, very competitive

          did i mention that i barely get 5G service at my home but if i walk 100ft down to the street i get service?

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            Gotta love that, there are technically two providers in my area, no fiber, one of them supports asymmetric gigdown/30 up for $130/month cable and 60 mb dsl fo $70/momth. My mother who lives 15 minutes from me has symmetric gigabit fiber for $70 from the same provider that does DSL for me.

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              oh same, if i go half a mile down the road to the next housing development they have cable, fiber, dsl, the works at prices equivalent to or less than what i’m paying for the fixed beam wireless connection.

              utterly insane

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            In my small town, we only had 4g lte, but it was quick. That is until 2 months ago, they ‘updated the towers’ to give us 5g… except now nothing works. My phone shows 5g but I have zero bars and zero service. When I switch phone to lte, it’ll show full bars but has zero service. It often completely drops to SOS mode. It’s ridiculous. Several people in town have contacted Verizon and the FCC and Verizon’s official response has been, “we are aware that service is not optimal in this area, but we currently have no plans to fix it. If you are unhappy with our coverage, we encourage you to switch providers.” It’s infuriating. They’ve “updated” the town’s service from LTE to broken 5G/nothing at all and said “yeah what’re you gonna do about it, leave if you don’t like it” knowing that their tower is the only tower in the area.

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              yeah, i thought about it for a while. ultimately it’s so rarely an issue that i decided not to pursue it, but it’s funny nonetheless

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      At my house I get 500mbps. My store (40 miles away) gets 15mbps. I pay significantly less at home.

      Not just that but you have to pay extra to avoid a data cap on the 15mbps line.

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      Not only that, 100Mbps is so 2018. Quit pussy-footing around, FCC, make the standard 1Gbps, both ways. And make bandwidth caps illegal. I’m lucky enough to not have one but for years I had to put up with a 1TB limit from those Cox suckers until Verizon came to town.

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        Do United States really doesn’t want to live in the 21st century does it?

        The slowest speed by internet service provider offers is 250mbps.

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          We spent like 5k per household to get fiber everywhere in the US. Then the companies who were supposed to do it just decided to take the money and not do it.

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            And the government continues to give them more money. I’ve figured it out now.

            People want better broadband. ISPs promise to broaden internet. Government gives money. ISPs spend a considerable amount of the promise of better broadband in marketing. Doesn’t happen. People still want better broadband. ISPs promise again. Government gives more money. ISPs continue spending on marketing.

            Over and over.

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            Yeah that would explain it. We don’t have anyone who would have that kind of power.

            In my country the big telecom companys were broken up in the mid 90s under anti-competition laws. Most of Europe has either done something similar or never really had a big mega corp in that position to begin with.

            It’s worth noting that the fastest internet in the world is in South Korea. Because they have their entire network rebuilt a couple of decades ago for some reason probably some war something.

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              Oh, we broke up the big telecom in the 80s. But the behemoths which arose from those (and there were only 2 or 3 after two decades of mergers) and the cable TV companies which “compete” with them for data customers now are effectively regional monopolies anyway. Once a house has a provider, nobody else is willing to spend the money on fiber in the ground to compete. It’s not even regional, really, but community to community or apartment building to apartment building (some of which have kick back deals to the landlord for exclusive service access to all the units). My neighborhood is less than 2km from a very large university with probably a Tb of connectivity. Everyone in my neighborhood has access to Comcast/Xfinity which, until last year ranged from 25/2 to 300/15 service, or Verizon DSL at 7.5Mb/768kbps speeds. There is fiber 300m from my house. I’ve contacted the fiber provider and talked with the CEO. He said they intend to do the whole town, except the captured apartments, but our neighborhood will be last if it ever gets done at all because the cost to install is higher than the newer and more dense neighborhoods.

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        You know what, I’m just happy some progress is being made if 100 becomes minimum. A lot of rural areas have much less than that. I wish 1gbps was the new minimum though.

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    Welcome to the United States, where consumers built the internet infrastructure that monopolies profit from and fight tooth and nail to prevent communities from providing high speed internet to its residents. Capitalism at its most corrupt: privatize profits and socialize capital costs and losses.

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    What about net neutrality? Does anyone remember net neutrality? I’d like that back please. I’d also like the opportunity to publicly flog Ajit Pai as long as we’re dreaming.

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      I would be content with just stealing his comically oversized Reese’s mug.

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      I have 150Mbps and pay $570 Mexican Pesos which right now is about $35 USD but last year was $28 USD due to the Peso doing significantly better and the USD kinda crashing.

      Still, it’s not enough for my client work, piracy and live streaming needs since it’s non symmetrical, I only get 30Mbps upload.

      I got receipts 📜:

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        I’m in the UK right now and pay £60-ish for gigabit internet (and 100mbps upload) which usually is actually around 800-900 Mbps, don’t know the exact price because it includes a phone system my parents pay for

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    Gigabit symmetrical or GTFO.

    I pay something like $110/mo for my symmetrical gigabit fiber line (plus static IP). This should be the standard, not 100Mbps.

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    why just 100Mbps? why not 250? that’s still pretty simple for them to do. also: net neutrality, dammit!

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    I’m paying $25 fo a 20mbps ADSL, but I only get 16down/1up due to the cable degradation.