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Stop giving him money. That’s the key to every problem.
Now we need to get NASA and the DOD to stop giving him money too.
Operation Paperclip is calling from inside the house.
are there any other viable domestic rocket companies that launch as often as SpaceX does?
There is absolutely nothing these over-hyped “space” companies can do that the US couldn’t do far better and far cheaper through NASA itself - you know, just like they did when they sent astronauts to the moon?.
that’s a fair point but it was also politically necessary to spend half a billion or more per launch to “show the ruskies who the real superpower was” - and a lot of the tech was still being developed. now, 50 years on, the tech is much more established, materials science has matured, and it’s cheaper for a non-government organization to perform the launches.
getting nasa involved is just going to involve gratuitous spending and pork barrel politics - look towards the SLS program. vastly over budget with not much to show for it. rounding down, you could buy every single launch SpaceX has made this year and still have a few billion $$$ in spare change left over for the cost of SLS… and it’s flown, what? once?
NASA’s first launch of the heavy lift Artemis, vs Space X’s Starship’s disaster of a “successful test” are different paths (and seems largely because the cut costs on protecting the lunch pad with water).
Falcon and all the previous space x rockets seem much less influenced by Musk than the Starship. Same as the Tesla Truck, I feel the Starship project is more vanity than engineering, and might not succeed the way Falcon etc. did.
Launching that car into space though was all Musk. Fucking moron.
Ah yeah, I’d forgotten about that one.
it was also politically necessary
There’s absolutely nothing “necessary” about a nationalist pissing contest between two vile empires. I know that’s an irrlevant tangent… but anyway.
and it’s cheaper for a non-government organization to perform the launches.
No, it isn’t. The US just did what it has always done… develop technology with public funds and then hand it off to the crony class to exploit for privatized profit at everyone else’s expense. Nothing about it is cheaper or more efficient - those are easily debunked myths.
getting nasa involved is just going to involve gratuitous spending
Duh… that’s how space exploration happens - through gratuitous spending. Whose money do you think Phoney Stark is burning through? His own?
Getting NASA involved is going to lead to results other than merely corporate parasites getting rich off money that could have been far, far better spent - that’s pretty much it.
There’s absolutely nothing “necessary” about a nationalist pissing contest between two vile empires.
I dunno, I don’t think it was necessary, but I do think we got some pretty cool stuff out of it. Satellites are kind of neat, I like those, I like knowledge about space and radiation and stuff. I would also like healthcare, that’s probably a higher priority, but I would like to have both.
but I do think we got some pretty cool stuff out of it.
Do you know why the US had to create NASA? The US wanted to get into space - but the corporates weren’t interested. There was no profit in it. So Eisenhower had to wait until Sputnik was launched, and then used the media hysteria to push through massive state intervention to actually get it done - same way Roosevelt had to use WW2 to launch the massive state intervention that resulted in the GI Bill (without which the modern-day idea of a “middle-class” wouldn’t even exist). This was no obstacle for the USSR, of course - they just went ahead and did it.
Here’s the thing… nobody got any poorer because the US sent a bunch of flyboys to play tic-tac-toe on the moon. But the existence of people like Phony Stark does make us all poorer.
We didn’t decide to have a cold war, we just had one. It was natural. It was the way of the world at the time.
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How about NASA makes their own damn rockets like they used to.
Rocketlab
How about rocket companies that can get crew to the ISS and back?
Larger ship is in development, might be able to handle a crewed mission.
Also the question was about cadence xP
But he already had all the money the moment he was born
He had peanuts compared to what he has now
He had enough at birth to fail upwards comfortably. Doesn’t matter that he had less at birth.
Exactly. Start every kid with unlimited physical and mental health care, never wanting for any basic need, traveling the world on cool first-class vacations, attending fancy private schools. See if they don’t all turn into “self starters.”
Exactly. In just a few thousand years, he’ll run out of money as long as he keeps buying yachts every day.
But no, seriously, if we want him to be less relevant it’s pretty simple. Stop going to Twitter (fuck x, i won’t call it that ever) don’t buy tesla, and lobby against SpaceX. At least, until Elon has no control (edit: and financial benefit) over any of those.
Stop using his shitty services and supporting him. This is not a hard thing to grasp.
I mean, if Lemmy has trouble figuring that out, what hope is there for the normies?
Good luck with that. People always say they’re going to leave twitter/X. But they come back. Like they’re addicted to it.
I don’t know what purpose “Like” serves in the last sentence. They’re clearly addicted to it. And not some watered down version of addiction. Some are just as addicted to that form of social media as drug addicts are to opiates or amphetamines. It’s become a chemical addiction but their withdrawal symptoms are only mentally observable.
What can anyone do about it?
Stop buying from companies he owns.
Stop using services he owns.
This is why I haven’t flown with SpaceX
Same. Any minute now I’d be taking my daily jaunt around space, but alas, the major players in the space are Bezos and Musk, so because of my principled stance (and nothing else!) I am going to shit post on the fediverse instead and then maybe play some video games.
Why does the worker class, the larger of the two classes, not simply eat the ruling class?
the larger of the two classes, not simply eat the ruling class?
I wouldn’t feed these parasites to dogs - never mind the working class.
Because we’re too busy working and the tools we would use to organize are being bought and tanked by the ruling class.
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Just create an account on Mastodon and slowly move over.
Don’t buy a teesla
Or don’t. No one needs social media. Just quit.
You’re using social media right now.
You know, I’ve been always wondering about what exactly is a social media? Is it place where you can post stuff and chat with other people? Isn’t that like a forum? What exactly make it a social media? What if it’s anonymous? Etc? Seems like the definitions changes all the time.
Tbh I have fb, Instagram, etc mainly for networking purposes but I didn’t consider Reddit a social media. And I don’t consider Lemmy a social media either. I think I view them more of “front page of the internet” if you will. Maybe because I’m anonymous here compared to FB, Instagram, etc?
Upvote, but yeah, it’s all social media. You’re socializing with others. This is true even going back to BBS’s, and granted the term was popularized with MySpace and Facebook, but I def consider reddit to be social media. Ditto for lemmy, mastodon, and the fediverse.* The divide for me now is firmly the corpo-verse and the fediverse.
* I guess maybe out there is an instance of whatever that’s read only that doesn’t allow any interaction, but still.
Ignore him. The more people forget about him, the more worthless he becomes, in any sense of the word.
Don’t type his name. Don’t seek him out. Don’t write fucking articles about him. Delete him.
If history has taught us anything, it’s to NOT ignore the raging antisemite with a curiously large (and growing) support base…
There’s a difference between keeping a watchful eye on someone, and actively platforming them.
Writing articles, striking up casual conversations, and actively bringing attention to him are all things that bolster his existence.
so Musk is Hitler, reborn? I’d read that isekai
Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it?
Make him take off his pants and sit on a lighted Menorah.
It is almost Hanukkah season…
Don’t even have to wait, candles are lit on Fridays. You don’t need 9 candles for this.
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He has a last name though.
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Seems like you do, being on a first name basis with the guy.
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revolver
I mean… legally? No, not really.
Extra-legally? He has a security team. They could easily arrange an “accident”.
Now, sure, extra-judicial executions are generally bad, but I’m willing to make exceptions for billionaires and nazis. And wouldn’t you know, this guy is both.
Someone would have to pay them better than Musk does. I’m guessing he doesn’t skimp on security guard paychecks.
Elect him as the president?
Really loving that 14th amendment right now.
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Nationalize his companies and ensure he has a glowy career future of mining lithium for the batteries (until he dies in agony).
Great now what am I supposed to do with this erection?
I use mine as a prybar to help civil engineers open manholes for easy access to my cities infrastructure. I suppose there’s more than one way to filet a feline, however.
I mean… legally? No, not really.
Extra-legally? He has a security team. They could easily arrange an “accident”.
Now, sure, extra-judicial executions are generally bad, but I’m willing to make exceptions for billionaires and nazis. And wouldn’t you know, this guy is both.
Everyone in this argument are fucking morons. How about ya’ll stop killing each other and figure out how to stop climate change
