Oh yes the Chinese Communist Party, the cake and eat it too party, where it somehow is able to access global markets and benefit from international trade rules, freely able to meddle in international affairs while embellishing its own interests.
It’s mind blowing how the desperation of late stage capitalism allows the CCP to operate within these frameworks.
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This guy gets it.
Businesses didn’t start pretending to care about civil rights until it was profitable.
It only became profitable because the ones saying no had their factories burned down.
Corporations would do literally anything for their “mah quarterly profits and mah shareholders”.
Seriously, people need to keep this in their mind at all times. Every single publicly traded company in the world would happily throw a bus full of children into a volcano if it got them a fraction of a point in next quarter’s numbers.
Yet people still defend the system that enables these greedy fucks, as if greedy fucks don’t exist and corporations will toootally work in a logical manner…
Peoples’ hubris toward the evils of their neighbors will be the death of humanity. Someone who fires a bunch of people to save money isn’t a “boss making hard decisions” They’re an asshole throwing people away to protect profit.
Yet people still defend the system that enables these greedy fucks
Greed is an innate part of the human condition. There is NO system that can be created and managed by Humans that will not eventually fall victim too, and likely fall because of, greed.
Greed is built into people and will eventually topple all systems of economics or government, NONE of them are immune.
Just because greed exists does not mean it needs to be systemically enabled.
In fact, it means the exact opposite: It is a problem that we’ll always have to deal with and cannot ignore.
Just because greed exists does not mean it needs to be systemically enabled.
In any system maintained by humans greed will eventually become systemically enabled. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Monarchy…it doesn’t matter.
When there is power and money to be had the people who love those things will ceaselessly flock to it and no Government in the history of humanity has ever managed to stop those people from eventually taking over.
You’re both right.
Greed and psychopathy will float to the top of every system, because the greediest and most psychopathic will inevitably see the system as a game to be won.
Ideally we shun it, but the “useful psychopath” is helpful to our own greed.
If only we could prevent it, but I don’t have that answer.
Preventive maintenance is a thing. As long as we keep wanting to work towards a better system we will move towards a better system. You say it will eventually fall. How far is eventually? I bet we could push it out til at least the heat death of the universe if we tried doing something other than robbing one-another.
Preventive maintenance is a thing.
That would work if the majority of people stayed interested…forever. This has literally never happened in recorded history.
How far is eventually?
It varies, longest in History was 1,500 years (Roman Empire) but as information accelerates so to does greed. The US is looking like it may be done around the 250 year mark but a lot of that was when information and society moved much slower. Younger Techno-Nations are declining at nearly the same rate and are unlikely to make even make that much.
I bet we could push it out til at least the heat death of the universe if we tried doing something other than robbing one-another.
That’s the rub. There has always been and will always be enough people robbing each other to break a system, any system. Its only a matter of time and I seriously think the amount of time it takes has a lot do with the pace of society and speed of information.
People have been interested in civilization since the dawn of civilization, dude. Even when it collapses it regrows. We’re naturally social creatures and ideas don’t die. Even in times of decline people aspire to do better.
Medieval European peasants knew what Roman aqueducts were for. They knew that civilization had fallen, but they made a new one and eventually it regrew to the point of the previous Roman empire, and then beyond, through ups and downs, until now.
Not everyone remains interested the whole time, but it does carry forward.
I mean, the problem is that people who suck at satisfying their greed fight tooth and nail to protect the greed of others.
It doesn’t make sense for most people to support a system where most people are losers, but here we are.
It makes sense if the false idea that “you can be like the greedy ones in power if you work to prop them up”
Sounds like you described every superpower.
This is an amateur take a best, but a strong unified China has historically always been the economic power house of the world. They’re so big they can trade with everyone, and since everyone wants to trade with them, everyone has an interest in not starting conflicts. When china prospers it’s usually a pretty good time for the wold. I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords.
I’m confused, you use the term late stage capitalism, but you don’t see that China is clearly not the worst offender of meddling in intl. affairs to suit their own interests. Like, America has even more access to global markets than China does, and also meddles way harder. Literally overthrowing governments, rewriting laws, or just straight up bombing to dust levels of meddling.
Ah yes, the ol’ “but america worse” argument.
Explain why it’s bad argument in this situation. To me it seems nonsensical to criticize a country that isn’t remotely as bad as the worst people doing what you accuse them of.
It’s whataboutism.
It’s not whataboutism if the what about subject is literally worse on this specific topic. In order to be deflection, you need to be changing the subject.
It is exactly whataboutism. You are shifting the focus of the discussion by saying “what about america? They are worse.” The subject was not america being shit (it is) it was about China.
You are aware that more than one country is capable of being shit at the same time?
Say some country was denying Jews the right to vote, and we were living in 1940-1945. If you were criticizing that country, would it be whataboutism for me to tell you to shut up about them, because Germany is a far bigger problem for Jews? No, because in comparison to Nazi Germany, denying the right to vote is irrelevant. In terms of level of meddling in intl affairs, I do not think China is a relevant player in the arena when considering the top offender.
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I’m just surprised it was the Republicans to back Stewart up.
There’s an aspect to Jon they like… Or at least use to their own advantage.
Jon tends to be pretty hard on China. Remember the controversy over his off-the-cuff comments as Colbert’s guest about covid and China?
I’d be more impressed if Congress was under scrutiny for their ties to China. And Russia. And Saudi Arabia.
Brb investigating the public toilet for poop stains lol
China makes the hardware, I thought this was common knowledge. Of course they have Apple by the balls
It’s not the manufacturing that Apple is scared of losing, it’s the Chinese market itself. There’s over a billion people in China and Apple makes a lot of money selling them Phones and iPads.
Apple manufacturing moved a lot out of China. China still has a lot of the raw materials they need, and in quantities they need them, but recently Apple knows it needs to be faborable to them especially right now, if for nothing else to preserve the Chinese market share they currently have and try and keep relationships amicable post manufacturing move.
Free market go brrrrrr
There’s no such thing as a few market, never was. they fooled you
Not anymore.
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I was a fool like many, but no more.
The key question to ask when some exclaims in favor of free markets is always “free for who?”.
Free for who?
When I say a sandwich is free, who is it free for? There’s no such thing as a free sandwich. Someone bears the cost.
How do lawmakers demand something that isn’t a law?
Anyone can demand anything
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I demand you take that back!
I demand ham.
They can request anyone to show up and speak about an issue, doesn’t mean anyone is required to answer them
They use the ‘demand’ rhetoric to gauge support for an idea, analyse the result, and if profitable draft and pass a bill to change the thing that isn’t a law into a law.
The bigger story to me is that there is a House Select Committee on competition with the Chinese communist party.
I would hope China has an equivalent. Competition like this in science and arts only elevates humanity. It’s military competition we have to be careful of.
Builds bigger phallus shaped projectile, it’s a building bro, it’s even got beds and election hatches lol
Oh no. How could anyone have so blatant an announcement of competition?! Hahaha
We don’t have one for Chad?
This would be a bigger deal if anyone had actually watched the first 2 seasons.
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If you really want to get serious about Chinese interference, this is a discouraging sign. An example of doing the bare minimum for the lowest of stakes.
Maybe start with Tik Tok and go from there?
You’re allowed to criticize China on TikTok.
As an aside, your name is weirdly relevant. I read it and thought for a second that you made the account specifically for this comment, but nope, it seems to be a coincidence.
lol. Nah, someone told me not to make my username Tim.
