He cited, as supposed evidence, the decline of national church attendance and the rise of LGBTQ youth — the fact, Johnson lamented, that “one-in-four high school students identifies as something other than straight.”

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    I cannot believe how every day more insane shit comes out about him. Lying about his finances, homophobia/transphobia, it just keeps going

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        If I had to invent a strawman to epitomize everything wrong with Republicans, it would not be as abhorrent as Mike Johnson because he’s fucked up in ways I haven’t even thought about.

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          I have to admit “Republican without a bank account” and “shares lack of porn activity with son” were not on my GOP bingo card.

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          … he’s fucked up in ways I haven’t even thought about.

          because… you’re fairly normal. normal people don’t think like he does. Even modestly fucked up people don’t think like he does.

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            Maybe I missed something or maybe it’s just that I was raised evangelical but I haven’t been shocked by anything that’s come out about him. He’s pretty garden variety as far as beliefs they espouse, not that that makes them or him less horrible I’m just surprised others are surprised

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              It’s not that I’m surprised he has extreme views/beliefs. It’s just that most evangelicals know it’s time to tamp down the rhetoric when they get to that point.

              In any case, I’m mostly just enjoying mocking the fuck out of him.

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              It’s entirely possible the demographics here on Lemmy lack solid representation from the cluster he hails from (specific religious groups, say… deep south out in the country babtists as an example, but I do not mean this to represent the majority of Christians there, because it most certainly does not). If you’ve spent time with these populations, little of his behavior is surprising (the bank account one is, though…).

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                Nah, even that doesn’t surprise me.

                I was talking to a local preacher here the other day and I listened to him complain for a bit and I said, “Well, yeah. All we can do is obey the laws of the land bud.” as a kind of little jab.

                His reply, “I obey just laws. I ain’t gonna go out and get gay married because it’s legal. I also ain’t handing over every dime they want from me so they can give all the local junkies free dope at the clinic. The lord don’t want me doing that. The lord wants me to obey and support just and holy laws.”

                They take what they want from it and leave the rest haha.

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                  Yet he probably completely ignores Trump’s repeated infidelity, abuse of contractors working for him, lying about everything under the sun, etc, and will still cast his vote for the “law and order president.” It’s all just willful ignorance bullshit, every bit of it.

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          They should get serious then. There’s almost always a George Carlin quote ready:

          And you won’t see a lot of these pro-life people dousing themselves in kerosene and lighting themselves on fire. You know, morally committed religious people in South Vietnam knew how to stage a god damn demonstration, didn’t they? They knew how to put on a fucking protest. Light yourself on FIRE! Come on, you moral crusaders, let’s see a little smoke.

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      That’s the rub, ain’t it. I understand that these religious world views are their reality, but more and more people are snapping out of it and coming into a more secular state, a common reality. But it is truly worrisome that there are these powerful wingnuts out there that are trying to claw us back into their reality, as if to say “you don’t know any better, I am a light of God and I will show you the path, whether you like it or not.” Motherfucke,r I don’t give a rat’s ass about your “christian” views and how I am somehow divinely mandated to oblige it because you say so. I guarantee that my morality is more Christian than yours, and that most of us just want to go about our lives in peace and not waging holy war against those who aren’t in lockstep with our views.

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        Except in many countries, these guys seized power and kept it. Iran, Afghanistan… This is what’s happening in the US right now. If there’s no pushback hard, soon, I really don’t think you will still be a democracy in 10 years.

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          Trust me I know, and many of us are aware of the precarious situation we are in. The problem is that a significant chunk of the US are actively cheering them on and agree that the US are turning into a nation of “heretics,” and then there are probably a good 80% of the population that are successfully programmed to be triggered into hot-button topic debates that miss the big picture. I’m all for doing something, but no one can agree on what to do despite knowing something is wrong. Bread and circuses.

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              All good man, much obliged.

              I hope we can figure it out and achieve Star Trek future, it’s just curious how we’d pull ourselves out of the mess we’re currently consumed by.

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    Hey, Mike. Prove your god exists.

    I have no reason to fear something that isn’t demonstrably real. And neither do you.

    Sincerely, an ex-fundigelical.

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      You don’t even have to make that challenge. The god you and I used to believe in can’t even pass its own ethical scrutiny, even if there were a deity like that it would be a cruel and evil one

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        I often say that the Christian mythos makes a lot more sense if you presume their god is evil or at least a trickster.

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          Or really, if they just drop the claim that he’s somehow better than humans. He acts like I’d expect your average asshole to act.

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            Even if real, this is the primary reason I wouldn’t spend any worship time on his behalf any more than I would for Trump. Fuck them both.

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              ESPECIALLY if real. If he doesn’t exist, that’s just humans doing their religion thing. If he (Yahweh in particular) does, the universe is controlled by a petulant manchild, which really sucks.

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    beginning to believe his christo-fascist bullshit and Tuberville’s logjam on top military brass are both preambles to the 2025 project the fucking Heritage Foundation is promoting.

    Imagine for just one fucking second that an liberal group produced that fucking seditious, anti-american trash plan? There need to be hearings about this shit: your plan is to gut the government, deploy the military and set up camps day 1? WHAT THE FUCK?

    THERE NEED TO BE HEARINGS ABOUT THIS SHIT.

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        In a country where there are 410m+ guns and 330m people I can’t endorse the ‘go get a gun’ theory of democratic government. Yes, people should defend themselves, but damn, adding shit-tons more guns doesn’t seem like a solution. Massive respect for John Brown gun clubs and the like, but (prior service army) I recoil at the fetishization of firearms as a ‘culture’ of anything but more gun violence killing kids and other innocents.

        edit: sorry about your cows.

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            a firearm per person should be enough for that. A NINETY MILLION FIREARM SURPLUS isn’t necessary to become ungovernable. It’s become ungovernable in a civil society.

            come on, tell me you don’t have one shirt, one hat, some piece of FLAIR that has an AR silhouette on it?

            COME ON. Don’t lie. You act like it’s patriotism and there’s something very sick going on there.

            You wouldn’t defend it otherwise.

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              Hey man, it’s nerdy, it’s like how some camgirls have a dildo collection, it’s culture for people with money to spare and little time to invest

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                bet those dildos get used by someone with proficiency and an eye toward safety.

                Unlike firearms.

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              Actually it’s Marxism, not patriotism. And no I dont fetish guns; I’ve lost some people to them. I just know what happens when everyone just sits around grumbling while fascism takes over. Now tell me how we should protect free speech for fascists and how that will stop them. Cone on, don’t lie.

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                Cone on

                cone off. cone on, cone off, either way it’s a stupid fucking argument. let’s follow your choo-choo train of thought: how many is enough then? 500m? 700m?

                how many firearms should I have access to between the shitter and the shower for safety, son? tell me you own stock in colt without saying so already.

                I just know what happens when everyone just sits around grumbling while fascism takes over.

                sure bud. you can’t hear it, but I’m rolling my eyes at your experience. good luck with that.

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        Y’all armed up, right?

        Take a good look at Palestine right now. Or the before and after images of Syria. Or Ukraine.

        Guerilla groups with guns fighting against national armed forces pretty much means everything getting destroyed.

        And unlike in all those areas, in the US most states are sitting on several nukes.

        Additionally, you’d be a fool to think that domestic civil war wouldn’t spiral into a world war as foreign powers got involved in picking sides or trying to move in seeing a weakened superpower.

        So when we discuss the idea of the US taking up arms against one another in 2024, what we are really discussing is likely the catalyst to the next use of nuclear weapons and the fall of large swaths of civilization.

        We really need to stop fetishizing magical thinking, and that includes gun owners’ fantasy of successfully fighting a modern civil conflict in the country with more military spending than the next top spenders combined.

        That gun is going to be real useful when an unmanned drone drops a bomb on your house.

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            Are you really telling me that in modern civil wars bombs aren’t going to be ‘wasted’?

            You do know that Syria is a civil war, right?

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              So you know then what to expect when the fascists take power. And they WILL take power, because Democrats will let them. And you know who wants you disarmed?..the guys that keep saying Democrats want to disarm you.

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    I wish the rapture was real so the rest of us could just get on with our lives without these manipulative greedy fucks

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      It probably was real, but only like 6 folks made the cut, so nobody noticed, and we’re all just living through the tribulations like it’s nothing

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      The only thing that would be the icing on the cake would all of these “Christians” would still be firmly on planet earth while everyone of the LGBTQ Alphabet would ascend. I know I am being hyperbolic but people can understand what I am getting at.

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      If I told an evangelical to “go rapture yourself”, would that be a threat or incitement to self harm?

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    To think if this man hadn’t accepted a nomination for the speaker of the house we would have never known how wack-a-doodle the man is. So crazy he doesn’t even have a savings, checking or retirement account because he is so crazy and modest.

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      Not just that, but who else is avoiding scrutiny by not being speaker? People missed everything about Santos until after the election, basically.

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      I just want to know where his congressional paycheck goes. Seems like a simple question for the press to ask and for him to answer.

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        He has been asked since he became speaker and instead of answering he talked about being a man of “modest means”. Everyone now knows he’s hiding something, and quite possibly broken the law a few times, so now we just wait. Either investigative journalism will give us the answers or a government inquiry will. Hopefully in the interim nothing bad happens.

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    Why does he care so much what kids identify as? its a little C R E E P Y

    He certainly has been depraved, of fulfilling his dark fantasies since epstein got clocked out and the new ranch owners snuffed him, i bet.

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        His wife is fairly concerned about how he’s been angry at his co-workers and staff lately… “This can’t be platonic or professional, or could it?”

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    How does anyone look at that picture, and think those people are perfectly normal?
    How does anyone listen to Mike Johnson without concluding that man is crazy?
    I’ll tell you how, the only way is that they themselves are crazy too!

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    Church used to feast with their people like 120 days out of the year.

    Now pastors buy jet planes and mock those that didn’t help them do it.

    Make churches a place people want to share their lives and they will. otherwise we get enough teaching from how the profits look from here.

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      I’m Jewish and thus not an expert on Jesus, but from what I know if Biblical Jesus were to appear in the US today, the only reason he’d enter one of these churches would be to flip over some tables.

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    These people are just so weird. And this guy is the perfect representation of these conservative freaks.

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    I dunno, there’s something so infuriating about having this guy purport to speak on behalf of all Americans when pretty obvs he hates most of us