Edit: good to see I woke the shills

  • @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    He’s already said he’s basically going to be 10 times worse if he gets reelected. I’m not sure why the people who support him think that’s a good thing. For a party that claims to love “freedom” they sure seem desperate to elect a fascist dictator

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      You’d think after he didn’t pardon the people in person that stormed the Capitol they’d smarten up. If that didn’t open their eyes, nothing will.

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              Why? They did it without the pardoning, and he walked away with his hands “clean” by not acknowledging what they did.

              Personally I think it’s funny seeing these people get time in prison, screaming for Trump to acknowledge them and pardon them lol.

        • @SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es
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          He didn’t want the folks who would pay him to suddenly believe they didn’t have to pay, or be ticked off that they were having to pay (remember, rich folks can get snippy). I can’t remember the number that was floated, but it wasn’t cheap.

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          He believes they are supposed to go to jail for him to prove their loyalty. He really thinks he’s a mob boss or something

    • @rchive@lemm.ee
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      There are several different groups supporting him for different reasons. The biggest, I’d argue, is the slightly right very populist. They’re not into fascism per se, they just want a wrecking ball like Trump to go in and break apart the elite institutions they blame for all the problems and see no other way of influencing. There certainly are supporters who are encroaching on fascism territory. Then there’s long time Republicans who have flipped on a bunch of issues to try to get support from these people Trump activated.

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      Fascism is a president trying to take away constitutional rights like genocide Joe is with the second amendment and limiting gun rights. Trump has already said he won’t get involved in any foreign conflicts, which is far better than funding Israels genocide.

      Just ask yourself who you’re going to have more rights under Trump or Biden, then you’ll see who the fascist dictator is.

      • @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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        It’s Trump. He’s essentially already said he wants to be a dictator. He’s started calling his opponents “vermin”, he’s stated on the record that he’s going to deploy the army on day 1 of his reelection to suppress any dissenters.

        It’s not subtle

        He’s going to destroy America so he can keep being the center of attention and make it illegal to disagree with him

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          There’s a certain document called the constitution that gives Americans the right to assemble and to free speech that not even the president can fuck with.

          Are you more scared of a fascist president who’s intent on limiting your natural rights or trump because he said a scary word like vermin.

          You’re honestly following too much left wing media, a more balanced approach to how you consume news will open your eyes up to what factors you need to consider before voting next year.

          • @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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            following too much left wing media

            I’m referring to things that Donald Trump has actually said openly on camera. It’s literally all he talks about. It has nothing to do with who’s reporting it, these are the actual words Trump has said.

            I’m not particularly a leftist, I consider myself to be a centrist. I don’t particularly love Joe Biden. That doesn’t mean I’m going to go out and vote for a cartoon super villain though

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            Are you more scared of a fascist president who’s intent on limiting your natural rights or trump because he said a scary word like vermin.

            For funsies, in the same statement (iirc), trump said their “sad, miserable existence will be crushed.” But you’re right, nothing to worry about /s

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            Wait… so the Constitution will stop Trump from enacting his fascist agenda but it won’t stop Biden from taking away The Precious?

      • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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        The great constitutional rights of living in a country where schools have to debate whether to run active shooter drills.

        • @rchive@lemm.ee
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          In fairness, it’s not Trump’s plan, either, it’s Heritage’s. They’re doing it for Trump, but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has never even heard of it. Lol

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            He’s had meetings with Heritage on how to implement the plan. They are already in the process of lining up his appointees so that they can hit the ground running. You are badly misinformed as to how far this has already gone.

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              With Trump him sitting in meetings still doesn’t mean he’s heard of it. Lol.

              Anyway, I’m just saying Heritage is the mastermind, not Trump.

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        Trivia question: Which politician has proposed “suspending the constitution” in recent years?

        Hint: It’s the same politician that said "take the guns first, go through due process second.”

        Another hint: Trump said both those things.

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        I will have more rights under Biden. There’s more to rights than guns. Like as a gay man if I lose my right to exist, that’s a bit harsher than my right to own something.

  • Chetzemoka
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    Not gonna lie, being a nurse during a pandemic with that jackass as president broke something in me

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      “Thank you for your hard work!”

      (But actually thanks, nurses are the best. How can we make your day better next time we’re in the hospital for something completely our own fault?)

    • @rchive@lemm.ee
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      At least he did Operation Warpspeed. Funny that some of his supporters turned on him for that.

      • @First@programming.dev
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        Great skills, giving a tiny fraction of the budget to vaccine research during a global pandemic that halted the economy. I’m sure no one else would have thought of that.

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          It wasn’t the giving money, it was the fast tracking in terms of regulations. Many people in Trump’s position would not have done that and would have waited the expected 18 months instead of the 11 that it actually took. Some in the industry were concerned as it was happening. Plenty of other countries dragged their feet in the approval process more than the US did.

          Trump wasn’t single handedly responsible for the approvals. Far from it. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t know much of the details. But it still seems he was pushing for it where other people wouldn’t have. I’m not sure Biden would have. Trump likes to play fast and loose where Biden is a bit stuffier.

  • @riodoro1@lemmy.world
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    I cant believe how dysfunctional the us has become.

    You actually voted for the biggest asshole and a retard to become president. He was wildly incompetent to the surprise of nobody. The country became a laughing stock. Secrets were leaked, justice compromised (even further), he attempted a literal coup. No, lets vote for him again.

    We knew americans were dumb, but holy fuck. You need someone to protect you from yourselves because clearly your government is as caring as it is in russia. The entire population should be institutionalized.

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      If you think voting for literal idiots is an American thing you really haven’t been paying attention.

      Boris Johnson, Victor Orban, …

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      I see this take often and I see the same kinds of responses, but it’s really upsetting to see the main culprit is never mentioned.

      Yes, some of us are just hateful, but most of the people voting for Trump are exposed to and consume wayyyyy too much propaganda.

      Our media has failed us in sooooo many ways all to chase the Almighty Dollar™. We have literal entertainment networks masquerading as “News” because they’re allowed to act however they wish. We have actual “news” corporations acting like entertainment. We have Fox News and Newsmax straight up fabricating a reality for their consumers that is almost exactly the opposite of reality, and then we have CNN, MSNBC, etc, that would rather follow The Days Of Our Trumps T.V drama as opposed to actually doing hard news.

      We have 1/3 of our population living in a fantasy reality, 1/3 being made to be enraged about an orange man’s dumb tweet instead of learning about potentially good candidates to vote for, and 1/3 that’s just apathetic to it all.

      We have a gigantic media propaganda problem… We have no real press that the 1st amendment was made to protect, instead we have corporations that are taking advantage of those protections to do whatever they want to make the most money, to hell with what happens to the country…

      Edit: all that to say, the people that we see as “OMG how could you possibly vote for him again, are you a monster?” Think “Trump was the best president ever, every news show or podcast or Facebook interaction I have had or watched says as much and proves it.”

    • @BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social
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      You should probably be aware that the cheeto never won a majority vote in America. Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.

      Along with that a good chunk, possibly majority of Americans is already more decent than you because we don’t use dehumanizing insults like the R word.

      Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.

      I think you would be surprised at how little power Americans actually have to affect change in our government. Short of dragging our knuckles and starting some uprising like his goons did, change can’t happen, and I’m not one to resort to that. I’d sooner head to Canada or Mexico.

      • @VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social
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        It’s hilarious for all the “democracy” the US loves to “export”, it actually has a pretty terrible democracy. Wildly popular policies have no way to make their way to the government unless a rich person or corporation also lobbies for it.

      • @rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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        Change would happen if 74 million Americans would grow a second brain cell and stop voting republican. If democrats were the only party winning elections, people would be more willing to participate in primaries or vote for a third party

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        Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.

        The biggest fixable issue is the whole thing where all electoral votes in most states go to one candidate. That is a thing that is fixable. Because that is a matter of state law. The problem being of course that most states don’t want to change that, because for most states it would mean less attention from presidential candidates because they’d be playing less of a role in determining who wins (by being worth a smaller, harder to shift margin). Convince every state to switch to the way Maine and Nebraska hand out electoral votes (2 based on statewide popular vote, one for each house districts vote - states get one elector for each member of Congress this assigns electors based on who would vote for that member of Congress) and the problem is mostly fixed (everything except not being able to win the presidency by just winning California and New York by large enough margins and having an average showing elsewhere). Importantly, it’s fixed in a way you don’t have to get most of the states to agree with all at once to make happen.

        Abolishing the electoral college outright would require a constitutional amendment and those are intentionally very hard to do. An interstate compact to functionally eliminate it by getting 270 electoral votes worth of states to agree to assign their electors based on the national popular vote rather than anything at the state level is somewhat more doable but will also be legally challenged under the doctrine that the federal government is supposed to approve any interstate compact.

        Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.

        Any judge that gives a fuck about the law and the Constitution is going to toss those out, as they are premature. He’s a fuckwit that’s awful in all kinds of ways, but he is still due due process. Arguing 14th Amendment Section 3 applies to Trump requires arguing he has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to an enemy. Which he probably did, but “probably” is not generally a standard we punish or restrict people over, nor do we do that without due process and the only process so far in this case is “has been investigated and formally accused”.

        This is one of the reasons that the Trump legal teams first and highest goal is to delay. If they delay long enough they can argue that the courts are being used as a form of electoral interference and possibly give Trump an election boost, if they delay even longer and he wins they can argue executive immunity. Because that’s the path with the best odds for Trump - he’s much better at manipulating crowds than at lying to judges.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆
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      Once again pointing out that Trump never won the popular vote. Yes, we need to abolish the Electoral College. It favors the right wing unjustly and undermines the will of the people when it does not align with the popular vote.

      Lots of people voted for him, yes. I’ll make the argument that things will actually get better as the folks whose cognitive abilities are negatively impacted by a century of burning leaded gasoline start to die off. I believe it’s something like >95% of people born between 1945 and 1965 that have enough lead in their bodies to be cause for concern.Can’t remember exactly where I read this, but you can do your own Google-Fu.

      Striking those last couple sentences and just outright saying that over 90% of the entire population born between 1956 and 1976 were exposed to enough lead to raise medical concern in early childhood, according to the table below.

      I’m also back to throw in the table/material I’m referencing. If I’m going to make assertions, I should back them up.

      And the source: Half of US population exposed to adverse lead levels in early childhood

      If you want some idea of how little we cared about lead exposure, just look up the Tar Creek Superfund Site., which turned three nearby populated areas into ghost towns. It’s been reported that children would play on the enormous mounds around Picher, Oklahoma, and those things were covered in lead dust.

      And try not to live downwind of small airports.

    • @hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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      It was always that bad, it was just better at hiding it in the past. Anyone who grows up poor has always known what’s up. There’s a reason the crooked rural sheriff meme exists… If it wasn’t for massive amounts of racism folks would probably recognize the same patterns in the cities.

      It’s not new, it’s just that the dysfunction got so big that it started impacting the lives of white Liberals. Fuck, go read about native history in the US. They knew what was up from the beginning.

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      Britain did brexit and a bunch of other countries elected right wing nut jobs in response to globalization, not just the us

    • @Soulg@lemmy.world
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      Fuck off with the “all Americans” garbage you fucking idiot. I don’t even care that it’s obviously bait, anyone who ever implies I voted for that can just end themselves for all I care. Suffering through this shit then being blamed by brainless retards

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      Nope. There’s nothing special about Americans just like there’s nothing special about any nation or large group of people. You have to be deeply ignorant of history to think otherwise. We’re all the same species and when things play out in specific ways it’s always for a similar set of reasons and circumstances.

      As Dan Carlin would say, “it’s a human thing.” You think this kind of insanity can’t happen in your country because it hasn’t yet. But you’re wrong. It can and has happened, many many times throughout history, in various forms, all over the world.

      Again, Americans aren’t special and you have to be deeply stupid and/or ignorant to think otherwise.

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            They are just farm boomers or paradenplatz bankdad boomers. They will disappear with time, I don’t worry to much.

            Also : Direct democracy and no président.

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          Maybe not now, but that’s not the point. The point is that we’re all human beings and what history shows us again and again is that as a species we are capable of talking ourselves into group-level insanity.

          There’s nothing about history that should lead anyone to imagine that the capacity for group-insanity is somehow unique to any so-called “race” or national identity.

          If you really want to argue that Americans are somehow uniquely subject to such things, you then have to account for the fact that a plurality of Americans are directly descended from European ancestry which in turn means that any difference has to be cultural as opposed to some kind of genetic quality innate to Americans.

          The upshot here is not that the US is somehow unique, but is rather that the US is precisely what happens when Europeans take over a brand new continent peopled by civilizations that lack the technology and microbiology to resist.

          Again, this idea of yours, that Americans are somehow unique or special, is patently absurd given what we know of history.

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      I’m surprised Americans don’t wear padded helmets all the time, seeing as how much they ram their heads into walls.

  • @Custoslibera@lemmy.world
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    Look on the positive side, if he comes back for a second term there’ll probably be death camps so you’ll be killed and won’t have to remember when he becomes president for life.

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      Put me in a Trump run death camp. Me and all my new pals will be living better than most Americans in the new order within a week. For sure would rather be there than a part of Gilead.

      • @DragonTypeWyvern
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        Fascism is great for the supporters, at first. They get to steal tooth gold.

      • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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        On one hand, I wonder what would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America. On the other hand, I read comments like yours and realize a lot of people are this dumb.

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          What would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America

          The same exact things that made them disillusioned 6 years ago? Their life is getting worse at an accelerated pace and have been for many decades now. The “System” does not work for them and they are tired of pretending it does.

          Despite ‘Bidenomics’ - we, the working class, are poorer now than we have ever been. Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

          They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust. Trump represents to them what Bernie represented to Democrats - actual change.

          But it doesn’t really matter what I, or anyone else, says. You’ve already decided what you think about all of these people.

          https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/12/07/despite-drift-toward-authoritarianism-trump-voters-stay-loyal-why

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            Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.

            They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust.

            This is fallacy. It may work to attract a certain type a voter but in practice Trump bends over backwards to appease the GOP. He lines his cabinet and campaign with GOP old guard and is set out to accomplish GOP policy goals. Not once in my interactions with any Trump supporters have they hinted at doing anything that wouldn’t be aligned with typical conservative ideology. Trump is the GOPs creation. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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          Yeah, Trump was big into genocide too, of the Yemenese. He personally vetoed a bipartisan resolution passed by congress to condemn the Saudis for their genocide in Yemen

          But then we see the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel happening right now, and Biden not only enthusiastically reiterates his support for Israel but works to punishe anyone showing support and solidarity with the victims.

          And that is why Biden is polling so low right now.

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        Trump was literally an average/slightly below average president, he just said the quite part that you’re not supposed to say out loud all the time. He doesn’t have anything on Andrew Jackson, Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt.

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          I’d swap out Roosevelt for Nixon - Teddy’s interventionism set us on a bad path, but at least we got national parks and antitrust laws out of it. Nixon was just pure shit show start to finish.

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        Yes, and I was like “how the fuck do so many people actually agree with that!?” Then I realized by dumb brain added “best” lol

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    As someone from another side of the world 🌎 I have to say that it was quite funny. Like a memexplosion. Granted, he did fuck up everything possible, thus strengthened everyone else.

    The only good thing he attempted was a TikTok ban. Should’ve been a short video ban

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    If there is an invisible hand, it needs to stop this. I’ll stop talking to anyone under the age of 28 ever again because if even one of you doesn’t vote I just cannot forgive.

    • why are the American people not fighting for a vote reform, to make voting on Sunday, like in every reasonable country?

      Voting on Tuesdays is just designed to keep normal working people from voting.

      How can you all be fine with that?

      • We Can barely hang on to the shitty voting system we have. I can almost never make it to polls (and often work Sundays) but I used to receive automatic mail in ballots. Now I need to apply for ballots early before each election and many politicians are fighting to make it harder and harder to do mail in. Women’s reproductive rights have back slid, internet freedoms have become restricted, vaccines are being required in schools and hospitals less not more. This guy is talking about progressive reforms and we are here just trying to dig fingernails into basic rights.

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        A lot of us aren’t fine with it. One side benefits when less people vote. Our government is absolute shit at getting things done because half of politicians elected want to hinder all progress.

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        We vote by mail in my state. I love it. Me and The Wife sit down at the kitchen table and fill out our ballots together and then pop them into the mail and that’s it. Granted, I live in a solidly blue state so my presidential vote basically doesn’t matter anyway.

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        So retail workers can’t vote because they work weekends? You’re gonna screw someone over regardless of what day you pick.

        In my state we have a minimum of two weeks of early voting including some weekend hours. I’d support some increases, but it’s actually not that hard to vote if you just try.

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          If you’re in a state that goes consistently one way or the other, it’s probably true that it doesn’t matter. For president, at least.

          I often vote third party, and I feel very comfortable doing that because my state is very consistent.

          • I’m very much against voter nihilism regardless of the statistics. Regardless of if I’m getting steam rolled or not, I’m putting pen to paper and I want the record to show that someone didn’t agree with the mob - me, it was me. The US is a two party system and personally I think that sucks. You are definitely “throwing your vote away” by conventional wisdom in such a system, but if everyone thinks this way there is no hope for any traction or interest in advancing third parties - so I agree with this form of voter suicide.

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              Basically I think my vote matters even if it doesn’t matter, so I vote for people I actually want. Lol. If there was a race where I had a strong preference between the two main party candidates and I thought my vote would have an impact, I’d ditch the third party for that race.

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        Local elections can be decided by a handful of votes. If you don’t think it matters who is in charge of the local government, you should read what happens when Libertarians take over.

        So you’re shooting yourself in the foot. You and everyone else who seems to think the ballot begins and ends with voting for who is president.

  • @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    He is polling above Biden in every single national poll somehow. Unless something drastic happens in the next 365, Trump will be the 47th POTUS. Americans have a really short memory.

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      This is not true. Boomer landline polls also had va going red and look how that worked out.

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      Polls a year out from the election. They have zero predictive value with regard to the ultimate outcome. Any pollster will tell you this. In fact, they have been telling us precisely this, but maybe not all of us are paying attention.

      These results are still deeply disturbing.

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      It’s nuts how short people’s memory is. It was just a few years ago that yahoos were invading our nation’s Capitol and Trump was orchestrating a coup. Now Republicans are trying to convince everyone that wasn’t really a coup, and have you considered BLM and scary trans people? Meanwhile the Trump camp has their 900 page plan to efficiently make the federal government into a right wing arm of the Republican Party.

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      Guess if Dems didn’t want that they’d give another candidate a genuine shot, but ol’ Genocide Joe needs his legacy. This’ll be it.

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        Incumbents historically have a huge advantage, any new candidate would get absolutely swept by Trump. Most Americans are embarrassingly out of touch with politics

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          Especially a candidate with left wing politics. There’s a reason Democrats run center-left candidates for president once it gets to the general. Those are the ones that win.

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          any new candidate would get absolutely swept by Trump

          The current candidate will get swept by Trump. Or have the polls changed recently?

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            Polls also had Hillary stomping tRump. Polls shouldn’t be trusted. Voting is the only thing that matters polls dont win elections voting does.

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              Yup, polls can’t account for something like an “October surprise”. In Hillary’s case in 2016, that was the James Comey letter that was leaked by Republicans Congress. It had the desired effect, with her poll numbers dropping virtually overnight. He rescinded the letter, but not fast enough to make a difference. This was all prompted by FBI agents in the NYC office who were leaking like a sieve to the press. So if you ever hear someone grouse about prosecutors supposedly interfering with elections because they are prosecuting Trump for his crimes, remind them that Trump got a whole presidential term out of FBI agents interfering for him.

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        Unfortunately, the time for a better candidate was last election cycle. Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.

        That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.

        • @OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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          -98 months ago

          Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.

          At this point, what advantage? He’s been polling worse than Trump. He’s more of an anchor than an engine now.

          That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.

          With Dems there’s always an excuse to do nothing and hope really hard for vague change later.

          • @Cowbee@lemm.ee
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            48 months ago

            Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.

            Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit. Voting dem won’t fix issues, it will just prevent many more from cropping up. What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.

            • @OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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              Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.

              I’m sure many people will be comforted by that when he loses.

              Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit.

              Read up on the Ratchet Effect.

              What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.

              I too, like vague undefined concepts that obfuscate real potential solutions.

              • @Cowbee@lemm.ee
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                28 months ago

                It’s not about comfort, voting harder won’t meaningfully improve anything, just prevent it from getting worse.

                I’m aware of the ratchet effect.

                Do you want me to list out every meaningful thing you can do to improve your life and the lives of others? Advocate, unionize, organize, volunteer, start a community garden, work at a soup kitchen, educate yourself and others, help someone in need, etc. It isn’t that complicated, really, and your denial of actually doing shit to help and instead whine about how Biden is a Neoliberal ghoul (which I agree with) and therefore can’t beat a fascist (I disagree with this) is absurd.

                • @stewie3128@lemmy.ml
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                  18 months ago

                  Republicans actively laugh at protesters. If people are protesting, they think, “I’ve gotta be doing something right to be triggering the libs like this.”

                  /Grew up in a Republican household with all Republican extended family

                  In fact, the largest protests in history (to that date) were in opposition to starting the Iraq war. Fat load of good that did.

                  Democrats protest. Republicans vote. Guess who’s running the show.

  • JGrffn
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    28 months ago

    Yeah if you guys put him in office again, I’m just deleting all social media including lemmy. Fuuuuuck that [most times daily, some times HOURLY] noise. I already live in a very depressing country, don’t need Americans to remind me they’re making things worse.

  • @WoefKat@lemmy.ml
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    08 months ago

    Please please please just go vote. And get all your friends to do it too.

    If all the trump detractors actually bother showing up to vote there will be no chance he’ll win.