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Yet another article about the same polls. How about the fact that dems outperformed all polling expectations in the elections this week?
Also, a poll 1 year out means almost nothing. Even right after Bernie lost, I said I’d never support Hilary and would vote 3rd party. Then I realized I was being young and dumb and actually turned out to vote.
Dems over-performed polling in 2018, 2020, 2022, and now 2023. But sure, this poll has its fingers on the pulse of the young people.
We should act as if young people might not vote for Biden so we can work even harder to make sure they will.
Absolutely. A lot of misinformation shows up in polls and statistics far ahead of an election. It’s free to air your grievances in a poll. Makes no difference. When push comes to shove, young voters will come out to vote for Biden if he’s the Democratic nominee.
Because they’re not voting for Biden, their options are “Trump” and “Not Trump”.
More than that. It’s “fascism” and “not fascism.” Nobody is fooled that Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis are anything other than.
I say this knowing Trump is almost certainly going to win the nomination, but he’s old, unhealthy, facing real prison time in three lawsuits, and the loss of his financial empire in the other. That level of stress isn’t good for anyone, and nobody lives forever.
@Telorand I think he lost the “not fascism” vote by providing direct military support to an ongoing genocide
I have to disagree. One act supporting genocide of another nation doesn’t a fascist make. Fascism is an ideology characterized by several components, such as racial or ideological purity, focus upon social control through military might, having explicit in- and out-groups, dehumanizing rhetoric, etc.
Biden is a self-avowed Zionist (possibly because he doesn’t really know what that word means), and he was glib in his support for Israel, but you cannot tell me, in good faith, that he has ever demanded ideological purity from his supporters or dehumanized his detractors.
Calling Biden a fascist is an unjustifiably reductive take, and it doesn’t actually do anything but confuse ignorant people into thinking he’s just as bad as Trump, an actual fascist who on Veterans Day called people on the Left “vermin.”
@Telorand it’s one hundred percent black and white for me and your ambivalence on the matter disgusts me.
It’s 100% not black and white for me, and your overuse of the word “fascist” to the point of irrelevance disgusts me.
See, I can play this ad hominem game, too. You can take your high horse and go fuck off.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“Young people as we know have always been fiercely independent,” said John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics.
Earlier this week, several progressive groups, including March for Our Lives, GenZ For Change, and the Sunrise Movement, penned an open letter to Biden, warning his handling of the Israel-Hamas War could depress turnout among Millennial and Generation Z voters come next year.
“We write to you to issue a very stark and unmistakable warning: you and your Administration’s stance on Gaza risks millions of young voters staying home or voting third party next year,” the letter read.
Ramirez pointed to top motivators for young Democratic-leaning voters, including climate change, student debt relief and a Trump candidacy.
Della Volpe said it was critical for the Biden administration and campaign to continue to communicate their stances and accomplishments on these issues in an effort to win young voters over.
“It’s going to be important for members of the Biden-Harris team to constantly communicate the positive change in the country based upon youth participation,” he said, citing issues like climate investments, diversity in government and bipartisan gun legislation.
The original article contains 960 words, the summary contains 188 words. Saved 80%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
It would be funny as shit if everyone just left the top of the ticket blank and voted straight blue otherwise. Trump gets in and finds unsurmountable Democratic majorities in both houses, and they immediately impeach and remove him.
Can’t wait for those young voters to hand the election to Republicans! 😂😂 I’m sure these young voters have really put in work getting FPTP voting thrown in the trash heap of history, too.
