• @Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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    1588 months ago

    Can you imagine her outrage of anyone said that about any group she is part of? Women. American. Divorced. Military. You name it. “Kill all of them”, “How can you say that, that’s inhumane and you should be locked up in a mental hospital”, but when it’s Palestinians it’s fine I guess.

  • Flying Squid
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    898 months ago

    Imagine thinking a whole group of people- millions of people- deserve to die. I can’t even comprehend the thought process there.

    • IninewCrow
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      548 months ago

      The thought of killing millions of people is becoming normalized again.

      The more this rhetoric is repeated, the more likely it will occur … if not in Palestine, then somewhere else.

      We aren’t evolving at this point … we’re regressing.

      • @perviouslyiner@lemm.ee
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        48 months ago

        Now that everyone who experienced WW2 has gone, the collective memory isn’t so strong. Up till a few years ago, you could talk to someone in the family who remembered it.

      • @bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        This is a bad take, you don’t have to have previously killed anyone to become a murderer.

        The Nazis managed to industrialize mass murder in the 20th century which directly reduced the amount of exposure to the common citizen. I don’t even want to imagine what a similar mindset would be capable of today.

        All it takes is a minority of psychopaths and a large population of apathetic citizens.

      • @Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I’ll have you know I’ve killed tons of chickens… in mine craft.

        Wtf I’m not killing a chicken. You kill the chickens. That can be your post apocalypse job. Me, I’ll stick with mud peasant, thank you.

    • @LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
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      348 months ago

      The last bit you quoted about Biden is referring to statements he made about Biden asking Netanyahu about the possibility of a ceasefire and that Bibi told Biden there is none.

        • @Fal@yiffit.net
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          208 months ago

          Yes, there’s no possibility because he’s asked and was tolled no possibility.

          • @TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id
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            08 months ago

            This is the correct answer. There will be no cease fire until, at minimum, the hostages are released. The other problem that the Israelis have is that there’s no evidence that Hamas has any intention of honoring a cease fire as they’ve willingly violated many such agreements in the past.

            I don’t have a strong opinion as to what the correct choice is here for Israel, I’m simply stating the facts as they relate to the possibility of a cease fire.

    • Bakkoda
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      Because it’s all theater. Most of these loonies are extras they just don’t know it. It’s one giant distraction. A fuckin flea circus. Just make sure you’re paying attention so you don’t notice your wallet getting lighter or your rights getting smaller.

        • @Adalast@lemmy.world
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          38 months ago

          I wouldn’t say ignore them. That is how the loons get their soapbox and make rules that make our lives hell. Remember that it is local government that assists the state government with their gerrymandering and enforcement of abusive laws. Vote for competent, populace-minded local governments and the asshats in the state governments will have more trouble exerting will.

  • @dhork@lemmy.world
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    This is why I’m not all that concerned in the recent polls that Biden is losing support among Progressives, who tend to be sympathetic to the Palestinians. What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse? If Trump does win, do they really think they would be listened to?

    I doubt a single person in Florida who thinks that Biden and the party he leads is not taking their side on this issue would vote for this person instead.

    • Flying Squid
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      348 months ago

      What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse?

      What they might do is sit out the election or make a third party protest vote. I am no lover of Biden, but if he’s the only viable choice other than Trump, we need him in the office and I’m worried not enough people will realize that.

      • It’s the same issue Hillary had. Lots of liberals were so fucking tired of the system. They wanted something new. And Hillary was a direct personification of the system; A career politician who had paid her party dues for decades, and felt like the seat had been promised to her. There were a lot of liberals who casted protest votes.

        • @Trev625@lemm.ee
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          I’ll admit I did that. I voted for Bernie in the Primary and then didn’t vote in the General. Although I lived in Oklahoma where Trump beat Clinton by 529k votes and hasn’t been blue in the last 50 years…

          I’d like to think I would have voted for Clinton if my vote counted for anything. If we got rid of the electoral college then I feel like the voting percentage would go up across the country as Republicans in California and Democrats in Alabama would suddenly have a reason to actually vote. I live in Alabama now and it is a STUGGLE to get any of my friends to take the time to go vote.

        • JJROKCZ
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          Yea I’m sorry I was one of them and therefore helped trump get in. I wanted Bernie, still want Bernie, voted Bernie in protest in ‘16 but did my part voting Biden in ‘20. But until trump is dead and republicans are unable to field someone as rallying to their base, I’m forced to vote democrat to prevent fascism overtaking my nation.

        • Flying Squid
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          38 months ago

          I hope the ones who did have learned their lesson. When the greater of two evils gets in power, greater evil is done.

    • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      Their rhetoric is certainly more openly genocidal, but Biden has done little to nothing to stop this either. He seems to fully support funding genocide.

      He uses language that is better, but his actions show no restraint in helping Israel 100%.

      In a rare Oval Office speech, the president said, “We reject all forms of hate,” against Muslims, Jews and everyone, as he set the stage for a planned request to Congress for $14 billion in emergency assistance for Israel

      And just 2 days ago:

      Q What are the chances of a Gaza ceasefire?

      THE PRESIDENT: None. No possibility.

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/11/09/remarks-by-president-biden-before-marine-one-departure-39/

      This is what leftists are talking about when we say they’re not that different. One party has better language sometimes but in reality little ever changes. Both ultimately serve the interests of the rich and the interests of the rich lie in imperialism and exploitation. The existence of Israel in that region benefits them.

      • @dhork@lemmy.world
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        -38 months ago

        But thats really the only line he could take. People talk about the benefits of incumbency when running for office, but incumbency also has a drawback that you need to find solutions to problems, in real-time, with whatever situation is currently going on. His opponents have the luxury of not having to be the one to deal with this problem, right now.

        And the fact of the matter is, no matter how heavy handed Israel is being right now, Hamas is showing no signs of letting up. And, no matter what you think about Israel’s treatment of Gaza all this time, no one can make an argument that Hamas didn’t strike first in this most recent action. If Biden let up on Hamas the way his detractors want, all it does is embolden those who want to use violence to further their extreme politics. (Including the home-grown ones in the US).

        • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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          no matter what you think about Israel’s treatment of Gaza all this time, no one can make an argument that Hamas didn’t strike first in this most recent action.

          What a pointless, ahistorical line of thought.

          Yeah sure if you just ignore everything else and start from that day, they kind of look like the aggressor.

          But even then that’s not true. “Israel was just peacefully minding its own business, illegally occupying the land they stole when the people they stole it from attacked outta nowhere”. Occupation is aggression.

      • @dhork@lemmy.world
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        38 months ago

        But that’s entirely my point. These people who are complaining that Biden isn’t taking their side are at risk having an administration who considers them all to be terrorists to take over if they sit this one out. I suppose they can take solace in the fact that they stuck to their principles, even if the Trump Administration sends them all to re-education camps.

        Sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good.

  • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    108 months ago

    Hope people are gathering outside her office to protest. What a piece of shit.

    Wait… subject == repub == POS? Ok, nm, that checks out.

  • @ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    Not too far of a departure from Biden’s statements about no upper limit of dead civilians or children and “None. No possiblity.” about a ceasefire.

    The real crime for the Republican: aligning with Biden in rhetoric.

  • Tedesche
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    -278 months ago

    Lemmings are rightly furious about these comments, but I don’t recall you all being upset about Tlaib’s tone-deaf implication that Israel should be wiped from the map.

    I’m not pretending Tlaib’s comments are as bad as these, because they’re not, but I am absolutely for censuring Tlaib over them. They were totally out of line, no matter what she meant.