Israeli airstrike hits ambulance convoy in Gaza – video
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The World Health Organization's director general says he is 'utterly shocked' by reports of the attack on an ambulance outside Gaza's al-Shifa hospital
  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
    11212·
    1 year ago

    It was a Hamas ambulance… The dozen kids at killed in the area? Hamas. The hospitals we bombed? Believe it or not, Hamas. We’re the victims here - look at the number of Palestinian kids Hamas combatants we’ve been forced to kill in a transparently genocidal land-grab self-defence.

    -Israel probably.

      • SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de
        162·
        1 year ago

        At this moment you get the impression Israel pushed specificity so Hamas would attack, giving them casus belli to wipe Gaza out. You’re expecting Israel to claim they found WMD in Gaza any moment now.

        • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
          53·
          1 year ago

          Personally, I feel someone paid Hamas a lot of money to do this, tricking them into thinking they would have support after the attack. Then remove support, let Israel commit genocide with Bidens approval, give ammo to Trump and republicans for 2024.

          Any Democrat or GOP president would have done this because the US likes that grasp on the middle east. If Israel were to come out from under their thumb they’d lose political control.

          This is a super conspiracy of course, but I wouldn’t put it beyond someone like Putin or Xi

    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
      283·
      1 year ago

      They don’t see them as non-combatants. At this point they are just categorizing anyone simply being in Gaza as part of Hamas.

    • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
      420·
      1 year ago

      I’m sure Hamas was only targeting military targets /s

      It’s a shit show over there and there are no good sides to pick. It’s a holy war fueled by greedy resource hungry companies and countries.

      The solution is NO ONE gets Jerusalem, and it becomes its own nation governed by the UN where no guns are allowed and you can’t talk about religion. I’m sure they’ll go for that hahah.

      • kaffiene@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        1 year ago

        Hamas are scum but Israel don’t present themselves as the moral equivalent of terrorists. So making the equivalence here doesn’t help out that much, IMO.

      • SlikPikker@lemmy.ca
        32·
        1 year ago

        Israel is ten years older on average. Israel has material superiority.

        They are responsible in a way the Palestinians just cannot be.

          • SlikPikker@lemmy.caEnglish
            51·
            1 year ago

            The average Israeli is ten years older than the average Gazan.

            Most Gazans are children, and Israel’s population as a whole are older. They should know better.

            This conflict is the nation state version of child-murder and child-abuse. Even if the “child” (Gaza) lashes out, even if they do unforgivable things, there is still one clearly traceable source of the evil.

            Israel- The literal and figurative adult in the situation. Instead, Israel has laughed, danced, clapped, celebrated, and cheered for this opportunity they have so long sought. Yes, sure, it’s not every Israeli, but that is just as true of the relationship between Gaza and Hamas.

            So now in this reality, where Israel kills so disproportionally, cruel, intentionally, with such malice. We call them monsters.

    • pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de
      75·
      1 year ago

      Not agreeing with what Israel is doing at all. But equalling the bombing of a convoy of ambulances, albeit absolutely despicable, is not the same as the systematic, industrial scale eradication of millions of people. It’s really making the Holocaust seems less insane than it was. Again, not that that gives the Israeli government a carte blanche.

      • DrZoidbergYes@lemmy.world
        61·
        1 year ago

        Israel has, for decades, been engaged in the systematic eradication of the people of Palestine. They have been committing genocide. It’s clear their aim is the total destruction of Palestine. While more subtle than the holocaust, the ultimate aim is the same and far more likely to be successful.

    • ???@lemmy.world
      165·
      1 year ago

      Zero evidence, nothing from the footage, another IDF lie to kill kids.

      I wasn’t sure they are purely genocidal but my belief has changed now.

  • spyd3r@lemmy.world
    343·
    1 year ago

    Damage looks more consistent with grenade shrapnel than an “airstrike”.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
      358·
      1 year ago

      Let’s assume those 3 hamas fighters were high ranking officials. Does that justify killing dozens of children? Stop justifying genocide.

      • sugarfree@lemmy.worldEnglish
        633·
        1 year ago

        The uncomfortable answer is yes. Civilians die in war, as distasteful as that is. However, there is 1000% more criticism against Israel for a lower number of civilian casualties than in other conflicts.

        • ???@lemmy.world
          171·
          1 year ago

          Ah yes let the pro Israelis lecture us on the value of life and uncomfortable truths.

          An uncomfortable truth is that Israel is deliberately killing people at this point.

        • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
          172·
          1 year ago

          7000 civilians in Palestine have died in under 3 weeks. That’s a genocide in progress, not “unfortunate casualties”. The designated refugee camp was deliberately bombed, and then the emergency responders were bombed while trying to save civilians. That is deliberate.

    • NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world
      838·
      1 year ago

      How are you going to just bring facts to this shit fest of propaganda driven bias confirmation? Sure HAMAS’s stated goal is the destruction and genocide of Israel and just committed incredible atrocities… That ain’t going to stop these terrorism apologists from drinking the Kool aid before they even get all of into the cup.

          • NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world
            34·
            1 year ago

            You do realize that an enormous swath of Israelis are of middle eastern descendency… Not to mention from pretty much every other nation in the world.

            So since you Americans love to assign colors to people instead of seeing them as people… What color do you think Israelis are?

            I will actually take a moment to explain this to you since I feel bad that most of you have had no exposure to the realities of conflict and American media is hardly reputable.

            The truth of war is that there are always collateral deaths. This is probably the most important reason why war should be avoided. Until someone creates a magic bullet that can sort combatants from non combatants this will always remain a truth.

            If you care for the people you love, you don’t go rape, murder, and behead your neighbor and their children.

            The collateral loss of Palestinians is an absolute tragedy. HAMAS combatants fleeing and hiding in civilian populations is the travesty though.

            But there are no mental gymnastics here, many islamic groups and Arab nations are on record stating that their absolute goal is the total annihilation of Israel and the genocide of Israelis. Israel has no such message or stance.

            If Israel wanted to ensure the genocide of the Palestinians they would have to do nothing more than to expel the Palestinians from their country and to push them to Jordan and Egypt who would shoot every Palestinian at their borders.

            Israel is a nuclear power, if it’s aim was genocide then this would have been the shortest war in history.

            The facts do not support you.