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- usnews@beehaw.org
Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron on Thursday released a written order detailing why he determined Donald Trump’s Wednesday sworn testimony denying that he attacked a court clerk “rings hollow and untrue” after he fined the former president $10,000 for his second violation of a partial gag order meant to protect courtroom staff.
The former president had claimed on the witness stand that he had been referring to his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen as the “partisan” sitting “alongside” Engoron when he spoke to reporters outside the courtroom on Wednesday. But the judge was unconvinced, deeming that excuse “not credible.”
“Witnesses do not sit ‘alongside’ the judge, they sit in the witness box, separated from the judge by a low wooden barrier,” Engoron wrote in the order, obtained by The Messenger. “Further, Donald Trump’s past public statements demonstrate him referring to Michael Cohen directly by his name, or by a derogatory name, but in all circumstances, he is unambiguous in making it known he is referring to Michael Cohen.”
He added: “Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear.”
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Fuck I haven’t heard that word in like 10 years. But yeah that’s legit what that statement looks like.
Yeah, “peekaboo” is something Trump probably uses as a dog whistle because he actually thinks it’s a slur, but his dumb brain transposed it for the one you mentioned some time in the past and nobody bothered to correct him, so he just keeps using it, like when people incorrectly use the word “irregardless.”
My old boss used to say “octagon illusion” No one knew if he was being funny or stupid, but no one ever corrected him because it was funny and made him sound stupid.
What was he trying to say?
My guess is optical illusion.
In my defense irregardles sounds better.
No. It really doesn’t. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
What, ‘without no regard’ doesn’t seem better? ;)
I heard it defined years ago as “Not without a lack of disregard”, and I’ve been using it ever since
to be honest, I could care less.
(But that takes too much effort.)
I could care less. I won’t. But I could.
In my defense here gargle this better
That was the first thing that popped into my head. Why can’t this fucker just have a heart attack from all his hamberders already? I’m sick of hearing his shit. The last 3 years were nice. Man was practically out of the news cycle.
I do not know. But. Like. I’m willing to pitch in to buy him an all-you-can-eat supply of them. you know. To help the heart attack along.
Got my popcorn out . . . .
I physically cringed when I read that. JFC indeed. He’s such a racist dipshit.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I came to the comment section to see if anyone else caught it, or if I was jumping to conclusions.
You’re trying to tell me there’s black guys on the internet now?
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I had to google that word because I had no idea of its existence.
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Ignorant white dude here, what is it jigaboo?
Yet another slur for a black person.
Just had to look it up myself, it’s a contemptuous term for a black person.
How confident are we that Trump would know that?
In his generation, particularly with known actions of his father, I’m quite certain he would know that word. Very common for that age group and their parents.
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Honestly, I’m glad that it was asked here in this context, because a) everybody reading this without the prerequisite knowledge will find an immediate answer and b) I’d rather not land on some list for googling something that may or may not be a red flag without even knowing :)
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If you think you’re going to land on some kind of list for googling a word then you should be out in the street rioting.
Oh, I absolutely know that everything I google is meticulously sorted into my data profile. I just wanna be a good zombie and be on all the right lists :)
You’re posting on the fediverse. You’re already on all the lists.
I didn’t even know that slur existing. Fuck Trump. When will we finally get to not give a shit about him.
Prob bc it’s an older slur, like how most people wouldn’t recognize dago or wop these days. But unlike racism against Italians, the country never moved on from being racist against black people, so greaseball hamberders like the orange combover can still gin up reactions with his klan supporters by dogwhistling it.
Ahh I wondered about that odd word choice.
Isn’t peekaboo a game you play with babies?
Is that a euphemism for like having some kind of affair?
“playing peekaboo under the table”
Or am I hallucinating?
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Jesus Christ
lol black guys don’t exist on the internet. They’re all out ice skating
Calling it now.
Trump Tower will be renamed: The Barack Hussain Obama Center for Multicultural and Gender Studies
…For Kids Who Can’t Read Good
This needs to be at least…. 3 times bigger!
If there’s any justice in this world it will be
Wednesday night is Drag Queen night!
Every night is drag queen night!
Honestly. If I had the disposable income… I’d buy Trump Tower, and branding rights to “trump”… and then, like turn the tower into a homeless shelter.
Apparently, Trump’s naming rights are tied up in the Trump Org that’s likely to be disbanded and sold off thanks to this case. So his own name could be sold to someone else to use. I’m really hoping some progressive group buys it just to open “Trump LGBTQ Safe Spaces.” Though, at the same time, I don’t think his name would make many feel “safe.” So maybe “Trump Waste Removal Company”? Their slogan could be “We Know How To Deal With Massive Amounts of Garbage.”
I think that a halfway house for inmates transitioning to being free would be good. The MAGA seditionists can transition to the free world again, and see how Trump lived when he grifted them.
Trump Seasons Landscaping has a nice ring…
I mean, I’d prefer “The Barack Hussain Obama Center for Children Who Can’t Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too” but I’ll take anything at this point.
Nah, Obama doesn’t deserve to have bad grammar associated with his name, by people born too late to get the joke.
For the Gen Zers who don’t get the reference. It’s a line/old meme from a movie called Zoolander.
I kinda got it, mind you im on the older end of Gen Z. It was one of those why am I associating this with random thing.
You would think that, but there is still an airport named after Reagan.
“Hollow and Untrue” would be a great name for a Trump mini-series.
His niece really nailed it with Too Much and Never Enough
That would explain how he apparently only weighs 210 lbs.
Bet it will be a limited series on FX within 3 years.
They’ll get it ready for release but wait for him to die, just to avoid the lawsuits dragging out the release.
Judge calling him out for using toddler tactics. Nice.
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I believe this trial will not have a jury though. The judge will hear the arguments and make a ruling himself.
While I agree the fine should have been much larger, it’s important to note that the judge called Trump a liar – in court. That’s not a great sign for Trump’s defense.
“Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear.”
“Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear.”
Its also a harken back to what Cohen said. That he doesn’t say things explicitly. He asks like a mob boss asks.
Yep. That is certainly a quote without any additional context from the article.
Why doesn’t the crybaby bonespur loser just shut up and stop committing crimes for once? 😄
I still don’t understand what makes Republicans going so deep into his ass: https://youtu.be/P4VwFYtltDw?t=5m13s
I’m leaning towards him having dirt on the entire GOP (or most of 'em)
I think if Trump had direct dirt on them, he’s too stupid to not blab it out at some point during all the infantile name-calling he calls “campaigning”.
More likely is that Putin has kompromat on most of the GOP, and the threat of ol’ Putin-on-the-Blitz giving that information to Trump is what allows him to hold on to their short and curlies.
This is the one.
The people that vote for the GOP would probably not give two shits about the kompromat. Were talking about a party of criminals, rapists, pedophiles, crooks, grifters, grafters, racketeers, and every other thing you can think of. If anything, their voters love it. They see hypocrisy as a display of power—a flex. It’s a manner of “owning the libs.” The only thing the kompromat would do is serve to embarrass and shame, assuming they still have any sense if shame. And if they have no shame, it is to their benefit to embrace and show it off.
We are dealing with a party that revels in wickedness. The only thing more powerful than kompromat is the words of the leader, the Orange Menace himself. If Donald Trump wanted to burn someone he’d just say something and his sycophants would believe it mostly without question.
It’s pretty simple. He gets votes. Votes let them personally get money. Everything is on the table if it gets votes.
They will do anything to get votes because votes make them money personally, either directly with tax cuts, or via bribes for tax cuts.
Thats it.
I always recall Cawthorne talking about the cocaine orgies…
Trump is very good at one thing: riling up the MAGA faithful. And this is pretty much the entire GOP base now. So if you go against him, he’ll just post that you’re a RINO on Truth Social or denigrate you at a rally. Then, MAGA will push to get you primaried by someone Trump approves of.
The GOP locked themselves into the room with MAGA and made them the GOP’s base. Now, they find that they can’t do anything Trump opposes because he controls MAGA. Even if he sends a crowd of MAGA to kill them, they need to reply with “thank you, sir, for almost getting us killed. We deserved that.”
For real, they love to fall in line behind a “strong man,” but trump literally does nothing but cry. It’s like his whole schtick. I don’t get it at all?!
trump literally does nothing but cry.
Truly he represents them.
Look up the concept of a “useful idiot”, that’s him.
Those Jimmy monologues are damned great!
it’s funny that I would have expected Colbert to have the best insights/humour in their Trump bits.
But instead it’s Seth Meyers, who i never liked on SNL but who absolutely shines with his political stuff, and Kimmel, who are leading the way.
Of course that’s not including Oliver, because no one is on Oliver’s level.
Fallon is a joke in comparison.
Whoa, that’s a radical idea.
I remain convinced he would have been reeleected in a landslide if he had just said, “Listen to Dr. Fauci.” But he can’t; his ego is out of control.
Trump melts down
FINALLY!
on Truth Social
…oh. Guess the celebrations will have to be postponed again.
Waiting for a literal meltdown, as in a headline saying he walked into a furnace.
If he gets time in jail he could write a book about his struggle. “My Struggle”
Yeah but I’m not convinced he could actually write a book.
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He could even translate into German. Mein… Something.
You joke, but he’s literally following in the guys footsteps. The beer hall putsch was 10 years before he became chancellor.
The guy who’s on the loose here in Maine’s Twitter likes were full of drumpf Jr, tucker and elmo musk.
Domestic terrorism is the real price we’re paying. My kids can’t go to our usual group Halloween thing this year because it may be the unlucky gathering he attacks next. Shits real for some of us.
Considering he’s 77 there’s a high chance he’ll be dead or demented within the next 10 years.
Pretty sure he’s demented now
Yep. “Downfall”, the bunker scene. With Trump sitting at the desk.
“Downfall”, the bunker scene. With Trump sitting at the desk.
Dormak and Jalad, at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell
Temba, his arms wide
Trump, his McDonald’s cold.
Kermit, his cup raised.
I imagine it’s more like him sitting on a toilet, furiously typing away on his phone. He’d be fat-fingering his phone if not for the fact that he has such small hands.
Chode fingers.
Covfefe
DER SHITPOST VON GIULIANI WAR EIN BEFEEEEEHL!!!
NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
sharts vigorously
I WAS THE BEST PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY WILL EVER GET.
more sharting
When are we going to start having mental health/psychological examinations for our politicians? I feel that should be a minimum requirement.
A TS/SCI background investigation would cover it. One would think the commander in chief should be able to hold a security clearance. Then there’s Ivanka and Jared with China and the Saudis. But hunter biden did what?
I would settle for candidates being able to pass a security clearance check. It is what our founders intended when they demanded that presidents not be foreign born.
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I don’t agree, but if it actually were the case, I would want him out, also.
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Trump should be treated the same as the shit that goes down my kitchen sink and I flip a switch to shred and drain it.
You’re shitting in the kitchen sink?
Just make sure to take the poop knife out before turning on the shredder.
Wow look at richie Rich here with his two sinks.
And here I am without a sink to shit in
My cousin caught my aunt doing that once.
Just thought you’d like to know, carry on.
It’s unhygienic.
I would find it hard to stomp it down the drain over the shower…
Ugh, gosh I wish I had one of those
Totally worth it. Usually not too difficult to add on and it’s one of those things you’ll wonder how you lived without. Makes a great Christmas gift - treat yourself.
I live in a hotel, not allowed to install one.
Good on the judge.
Scumbags like Trump thrive in the gaps and ambiguities that normal decency shouldn’t have to fill. They break down standards of decency that shouldn’t have to be codified.
Authoritarians and people who need authority will do anything they can get away with - but we can’t write laws for every single little scheme anyone could ever come to up with.
We need guiding principles and a respect for the spirit of the law.
Trump tried to play innocent but it doesn’t count in the courtroom.
His audience can’t help him in there.
Trump melts down…
Good.
Maybe too strong of a word here
More aptly “Trump behaves as normal”
I wonder if Trump could even define plausible ambiguity.
If asked to, he’d shit out a minute or two of word salad without answering the question, as Cult 45 smugly nods along.
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