Through a lot of the series there is a woman providing character Lilly Bainbridge comfort & was the daughter of the circus clown, I believe her name was Ingrid Kersh, played by Madeleine Stowe. They tell this character’s story starting with her as a young teen, minimally 10-years old, in the circus with her clown father, back in 1908. Then she is in the present time of the series, kind of confusing, but I know it started in 1958, looking at least 40s, maybe, 50s years old (my mother is watching to, when I brought it to her, she says late 40s). So, she is looking way too young, for minimally how old the character has to be. 1958 - 1908 = 50-years old + she was at youngest 10-years old in 1908 (again my mother agrees with that) = 60-years old. Even if she looks 55-years old, that is at least 5-years too young.
Can someone help explain to me how this makes any sense?
I really liked the series, liked the book better. Rereading the book, after 35-years & being a young HS person, so maybe, that will change.
I watched the New Rockstars breakdown on this and I think she’s supposed to be 62 years old if I remember correctly. So it was off.
Also I didnt like some of the decisions made in last episode but still love the show overall.
What did you not like about the last episode?
I didnt like Its perception of time and the implications around that.
Also for Gamma@beehaw.org & others who are curious about the HBO’s show’s ‘It’ having the undefeatable super power of being in the past/present/future all at the same time.
I known super long reply, but worth it.
Maybe, I should also copy & paste this into a separate post starting THREAD?
Pretext Example: I hope it is not in the book (have yet to find it there, but have not finished 2nd read), because…
…As a former 1st. Organized FB fan, since old enough to understand it from father-2020/Covid 19 & Covid variants boycotting Organized FB (& rest of the sports), but still from old enough to understand from father-death fan of only the sport of FB (& rest of the sports) fan, So, I have tried & played a ton different USA FB Video-Internet games, most trying to find an equal to FPS: FBP series (never until earlier this year played any game online) after it was shutdown (was there with first day sold & played others before it), almost 30-years later never have.*
2nd PWFBL-High School coach & player at same exact time
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3rd. flag FB, at IM university Sports, as working at local big university (& previously the local college) as “STUDENTS’ “ Sports Radio Host/Sports Game Producer. two separate attempts in sports world, after as a player I was not mentally strong enough to fight career ending injury, went all in as a coach/like my family serious ESE facilitator of minds I did not have inside that was required, so then as a sports radio host I could not take being censored, because I would not stop criticizing the ripping off students for money to create future university cash cow-when I saw no career, because I would not follow the line of protecting the professional money maker, which were my favorite teams.
From that I can confidently tell you-
*-The Best USA FootBall Video/PC/Internet game ever made is Front Page Sports: FootBall Pro ‘98 (this summary of what really happened to me earlier this year is what I afraid might happen to my love of ‘It’), because it simulates IRW FB the best through it’s thinking person’s game features (especially STILL NEVER EQUALLED plays creation-editing & TOP OF THE LINE game profiles features to the point that computer control can control your team’s next game, the way you want it to go), I could not play any more when the game got too old for the PCs & I was then still trying to make two separate attempts in sports world, as a coach & then as a sports radio host (before Internet boardcasting). After done with those careers attempts & to earlier this year I was helped by a online FBP ‘98 league’s (only handful left) commissioner to get the game working on my (then malware free) LT. Since he did that for me (you would think he saved my FB life, it appeared that way), I agreed to join for at least a season, as stated payback, the small NCAA league (they had just started the previous season & already had a NFL league running, non-stop & 2-seasons a year, since 1998), but by far most popular two-leagues. Game’s age affecting what that all features could not be done through online playing & as I went along the conservativeness-serious restrictions only got worse, though I was good to my word. Since almost all the people have been playing from the beginning & non-stop, they did ”the research” to figure-out the “fairest” performance numbers limits for the players’ per year & position & what should be allowed in Plays/Game Plans/Profiles- what makes FBP series & ‘98 version the best ever & only reason I wanted to play it, after being long out of date, surely not the graphics. They claimed it, at first I trusted them, because the rules for these restrictions were like the bible in nearly all are impossible to make right & the so equally un-believable, foreign, complex, length & big time biased for offense- I played & always loved Defense more than Offense, only played/PWFBL starred-PWFBL coached at DE position-DL positional group (STEREOTYPED <Vegan & genetically thin & performance enhancement drugs free body & already had teaching degree & certifications, from the best> INTO High School OL - MOSTLY TE Ass. Coaching, always wanted back to at least DEs). BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY NEVER DOCUMENTED TO PROVE/HAD PROOF OF THEIR RESEARCH/CLAIMS THAT THE GAME HAD TO BE RADICALLY CHANGED BY THEM. THUS I NEVER COULD BELIEVE THEM. When got caught-up & commissioner claiming he agrees with some of my complaints on it all & super slowly enacted (in offseason; I joined in middle of season a average at best team) changes to players restrictions, dragging the rest there.I HAD REALIZED THAT THE WAY THEY PLAYED FPS:FBP ‘98 (DOES NOT EVEN MATTER, IF WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS TRUE, IT WAS LEAGUES’ REALITY, FOR YEARS & YEARS) SLIGHTLY CHANGED MY VIEW OF THE GAME! EVEN NOW, JUST KNOWING IT IS POSSIBLY TRUE, THE GAME IS SMALLEST DEGREE NOT AS GOOD! THAT REASON I AM TRYING TO GET WHAT THE GAME SHOULD ALWAYS BE & A SET OF ONLINE ASSOCIATIONS OF MY OWN UP & WORKING ON MY NEW AWESOME (THOUGH TABLET SIZED SCREEN) FRAMEWORK 12 LT!
WHERE THIS ALL APPLIES FOR ‘IT: WELCOME TO DERRY’S ‘IT’ (TRUSTING THAT GAMMA IS RIGHT ABOUT NOT IN THE BOOK) & THE ORIGINAL ‘IT’ STORY/BOOK IT WOULD CAUSE ME TO ALMOST STOP WATCHING THE HBO SERIES, BECAUSE…
…THE ORIGINAL STORY/BOOK MADE LAW OF YEARS ‘IT’ HIBERNATION & THEIR PRISON SHIP FRAGMENTS CAGE/FOREST ADDITION TO THE STORY FALLS APART, WITH THEIR ‘IT’ EXISTING IN THE PAST/PRESENT/FUTURE, ALL AT ONCE. ‘IT’ CANNOT BE HIBERNATING, BECAUSE TIME DOES NOT APPLY TO ‘IT’, MAYBE/ARGUABLY TO THE REST OF CHARACTERS ‘IT’ HIBERNATES. ‘IT’ CAN ALWAYS ESCAPE, BEING IN THE TIME, WHERE CAGE NEVER EXISTED/YET TO EXIST. THUS, QUESTION- WHY, DOES NO ONE UNTIL THEN (THERE AT LIFES’ DAWN, LET ALONE OUR) KNOW THIS? I MEAN, ALL THE MADE-UP BELIEFS, OUR SPECIES HAS DONE OVER OUR EXISTENCE & NO ONE SUSPECTS & APPLIES THIS TO ‘IT’.
PS: Continuing with FBP ‘98 online league experience-
Then the horrible playoff system cheated my team into lower playoff position & thus played the best team, & cheated for the team I beat just two-weeks prior (in only matchup & we had same exact records) into a higher playoff position & easier opponent. My team barely lost, by missing EASY FG <happens too often in games, fact that I had not noticed before> on last drive, the cheated for team barely beat the easier opponent! While I had become used to this sort of thing, I was ready to quit right then & there, but instead said I would quit after the new/High School grads players acquisition period. During early parts of the new/High School grads players acquisition period the commissioner did something that was not against the rules, but disliked, for his team’s huge benefit & afterwards asked if the rest of league wanted to change the rules to prevent it, everyone (including I, understanding sports leagues apply new rules in following seasons at the earliest) voted to do it, but when I tried to do exactly that same thing he did, he told me to stop or be punished. I told him he did it & rule changes apply in next new/High School grads players acquisition period & he told me the rule did not. So I being cheated yet again did not stop & he suspended me & removed all the players, I signed. I quit then & there.
This ain’t your daddy’s pennywise!
Like I said, I am willing accept that always in every time ‘It’ as long as it is in the book.
With that being they absolutely terrible job of throwing that into the very end of last episode, given the above context & not in the ‘90 TV mini-series.
It’s very much not in the book, they were building their own lore and doing their own things that were more connected to the recent movies and allowed them to tell the story for the next seasons backwards.
It was abrupt and lore-dumpy though, It could’ve been muuuuch smoother
If you are right, then I hate it. Was never necessary, plus, I cannot see how ‘It’ can be defeated with that huge advantage.
Kill the kids when they are being born & feed on the fears of not threatening kids, until next set of threat kids are born.
Since I hate religion, I did not mind using alien (have to exist, just not visiting Earth) as a way to explain ‘It’, on Earth. Could have done Super Powered Villain or Evolutionary (which I prefer) angle.
Yeah it feels like an easy method to hand wave inconsistencies as they happen in the show. It’ll let Pennywise attack up the family trees during the next few seasons so I forgive it there, even if it makes It look like an incompetent villain in the long run.
It was an alien in the book, the species is hinted though never fully explained in the Dark Tower. It does exist out of time there, but more as a cosmic being than how it was shown in the show since the details are left out.
At least as far as I remember, it’s been a few years since my last trip around the wheel.
