• Rooty@lemmy.world
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    American leftists and their guilt complex were once funny, but now shit is getting stale.

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    World history without the Arabs, Mongols, Ottomans, imperial Japan? Even from an eurocentristic point of view that’s too reductive.

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      Seriously. Tell me you’re a white american without telling me you’re a white american 🤣

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      Interestingly eurocentrists often refer to Alexander the Great as taking over “the world” even though he only took over Europe and the Middle East (which is what they saw as “the world” at the time). His troops abandoned him almost immediately upon entering what is now modern day Punjab (Pakistan/India).

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    Yeah, this is giving of some serious “i have never read a book in my life”-energy.

    Did the world start 300 years ago?

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      Even then - during WW2, imperial Japan was committing atrocities on millions of victims. Sure they eventually lost against ‘white people’, but I don’t think that’s much comfort to the millions of Chinese people who were killed by the Japanese.

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        Polynesians were literal millenia ahead of even early European seafarers (I.e. Vikings).

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          The history referenced in this meme starts with the European ships being able to navigate the deep seas.

          The post I replied to makes a comment about 300 years which would be well after the history referenced in this meme

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            This meme references the entirety of world history and it’s just blatantly stupid and wrong.

            The text doesn’t say “colonial age history in one sentence” or even “American history in one sentence”, it says “WORLD history in one sentence”

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                I know.

                The meme claims all of world history is caused by white people being dangerous. -> A commentor mentions a very significant instance in said “world history” where white people were in fact not the danger -> you reply by saying said significant instance is not part of the timeline mentioned in the meme, but rather much later -> I respond by saying you don’t make any sense because the meme refers to all of world history, therefore including other commentors significant event

                Did I miss something?

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                  Yes you missed that I was replying to an earlier comment that would place this in the mid 1700s and that my comment was limited to that part.

                  Did you really need that explained to you?

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        When home is relatively cold and only borderline habitable, taking your chances with going out to sea is an understandable instinct.

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    Half of Disney movies are about kids going against this very parental advice, getting said parents robbed/hurt/killed, and getting rewarded in the process

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    Everyone knows the Comanches were nothing but peace loving kindness and happy joy.

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    Wait, if Aztecs thought white people are gods (unless it’s a “Television would never lie” moment), do we have records of how they treated albinos born in their countries?

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          It’s something that Frank Dibble talked about in the Rogan debate. (The entire situation was a shitshow, but I learned a lot from listening to him dribble Hancock around like a basketball, and Professor Dave/Miniminutemen’s coverage of it)

          Aztec and Mayan history tends to attract a lot of bullshit (and tend to be treated as interchangeable 😔). The Spaniards burned so much of pre Colombian primary texts that most information is filtered through people who wanted to portray those people as stupid primitive murderous psychopaths to justify their own primitive murderous psychopathy.

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      It wasn’t just pale skin. Honestly look at a picture of a Spaniard, and then look at a picture of a Mesoamerican. It’s not exactly night and day, is it?

      “The Spanish showed up and the natives thought they were gods.” So, the natives had myths and folklore about their gods going away across the sea and would someday come back from across the sea. And then one day these big boats show up and what wades ashore but a man with strangely pale skin and strange colored eyes and a big bushy beard wearing metal armor and carrying metal weapons riding some kind of big hoofed animal. He’s speaking a weird language you don’t understand and HOLY SHIT did he just shoot thunder from that metal stick? Something like eighteen things you haven’t seen before just happened.

      What do you think was their first hypothesis?

      How long do you think it took for them to test that hypothesis?

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      The veneration was severely overblown. They heeded them as gods in the same way that I heeded my abusive father as a god. And albinos probably just kinda died to the Central American UV. They might have been perceived as cursed.

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      Not even that. Or are you one of those people blaming the Yemen civil war on white people?

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        Bruh, it’s a single sentence, not an in-depth examination of all geopolitics for the past 500 years.

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          That’s absolutely fair. But it’s single sentence that can be proven incorrect by a single example and that’s what I just did.

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            If I casually say “Money is the root of all evil”, and you respond with an example of an evil deed that was committed for reasons other than money, have you:

            A. Disproven me with FACTS and LOGIC

            OR

            B. Disputed the literal interpretation of something that was not meant literally or absolutely in the first place

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              Then what exactly am I to take it as? What level of argument is this? “Na ah, you can’t disagree with me, because I was just using a commin saying and don’t want people to actually take my words at face value”?