• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 小时前

    Nice fluff piece, but it’s still complete speculation as to how fish “feel” when out of water or anything else. Currently, science can’t tell if a fish can hurt in the same sense that humans can.

    If they come up with something dirt cheap to kill them faster, I’m all for it. No down side to give a fish the benefit of the doubt. This isn’t something I’m going to worry about, though.

    • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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      5 小时前

      Broadly scientific consensus is that at least bony fish likely experience pain in all of the same quantifiable ways that humans do. They exhibit avoidance learning, they have a central nervous system, nociceptors, opiod receptors, exhibit reduced avoidance responses to noxious stimuli when given analgesics… Etc.

      The few scientists that have argued over the years that fish likely do not or cannot experience pain have been in the minority in the last 50 years, and each passing year finds decreased evidence for their claims. Dismissing it all as ‘complete speculation’ is… Very inaccurate.

      Worth reading:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_fish

      Also - there already is “something dirt cheap to kill them faster” - hardwood fish bat. Lasts forever and instantly stuns, and with a couple of strong well-aimed blows will definitely kill.

    • Doom@ttrpg.network
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      9 小时前

      I’m sorry but that’s idiotic

      The hell you mean? Of course it senses hurt. Why do you think humans are special cause we say ow?

      What the fuck.