Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an “unprecedented mass deployment” to Europe.

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    Sounds like the perfect time for Canada, Greenland/Denmark and Panama to launch their preemptive strike and ensure regime change and eliminate US WMD.

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    If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.

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    This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

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    I fucking hate this rhetoric which is: OIL! GAS! BUY OIL! BUY GAS! KEEP PUTIN HAPPY! OIL! GAS!

    No one was taking the ‘war’ between Israel and Iran seriously last week after the initial surge in oil price because the USA was like… “yeah, nah”. Now, after a quick call from Putin and bam, all this BS about how the US is pandering for war to drive commodity and share prices up when it’s a nothingburger.

    Remember kids, buy oil, buy gas and do as you’re told.

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    A-10 movement always preceeds ground deployments. They moved those to Kuwait at the end of March. This has been coming for a while, its not an unplanned thing like it appears.

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    We need to fix the voting system. ALL pacs should be banned and campaign spending should be limited.

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    worry not. remember this is TACO Don… he’ll chicken out again

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      He openly calls service members suckers and losers. I dont know that he much cares whats done with them.

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      Yeah, it seems fairly impossible he’ll get fully into the war, and even lending a few bunker busters would be surprising when that’s risking a blowback on American forces.

      I would guess that Trump is expecting Khamenei to cave, because that’s what he’d do. Most likely, he won’t, Trump will be confused, and this will drag on and on until a regional nuclear exchange is on the table.

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        it works in russias favor since its redirecting some resources from the ukrainian front, its not a coindence that this is occuring at the same time russia was having larger losses.

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          Iran or Iran’s splinter states. They have several bombs worth of uranium that’s almost ready.

          I doubt the US would get involved, and nobody else is going to for sure.

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            That’s the same talking point we’ve heard for decades but even US intelligence reports have said the opposite, even earlier this year. I’m sure they could create dirty bombs but that only requires nuclear power plant waste.

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              No, we’ve heard they have some kinda enriched stuff, some centrifuges and could maybe someday have a bomb for decades. It’s a bit less theoretical now, they’ve been gradually enriching more and more since the US broke off the agreement:

              In February 2023, the IAEA reported having found uranium in Iran enriched to 84%. The Iranian government has claimed that this is an “unintended fluctuation” in the enrichment levels, though the Iranians have been openly enriching uranium to 60% purity, a breach of the 2015 nuclear deal. In 2024, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian expressed interest in reopening discussions with the United States on the nuclear deal.

              They have a significant amount, too, and if I were them I would be hiding it carefully in non-obvious places where it can’t be buried by an airstrike.

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          Hasn’t Iran been talking about ramping up nuclear weapons production since like the end of last year? I don’t think they’re actually a nuclear capable nation but I could see them posturing like they are

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            Posturing is what Iran does. They’ve done that at least since the early 90s. But US intelligence services have repeatedly come to the conclusion that Iran is not ramping up production, at least based on the briefs even from a few months ago earlier this year.

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    US is going to be bankrupt by the time he is done his second term.

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      I mean, that’s just on brand for him. If anything, he has shown a talent for bankrupcy.

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    I’m seeing a lot of posts drumming up war hype and WW3 fears but there is nothing to fight. Iran is already cooked and no one is wants to do a ground invasion of Iran. Iran’s allies have abandoned them. This is american security preparing for possible counter attacks and bombing targets, not a full on war. Iran is already at war with Isreal.

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    This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

    Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

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      This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.

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          If the US ever try to take out the Panama channel it would fuck up bigly international commerce. Basically only the US military is going to use it because no insurance company is going to cover ships going through them, and without insurance ships can’t even leave port.

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        Wouldn’t this cause catastrophic domestic problems though. I think the US would tear itself apart trying to go to war with either of those three. Greenland perhaps less-so but still incredibly distasteful.

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      Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

      The United Russia party has had a chokehold on Russian elections practically since the day the USSR was dismantled.

      There’s a lot more to their socio-economic dominance than Russia just starting new wars. RU controls the national media, they have deep roots in petrochemicals and finance and real estate, they’re mobbed up, they have control of the military across the officer’s corps, and they’re embedded all through local government.

      Putin could be the biggest peacenik hippie in Russia and that party wouldn’t budge from its perch.

      He’s doing these wars because he’s fascist. Not because he’s doing 11D politics chess.

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        Starting a war isn’t really 11D thing, it is more like “me big army, me attack” vibe. Even the orange orangutan can figure that one out.

        Russia has two exports, fossil energy and war. They know nothing else.

        Putin and his party are one and the same.

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          Russia has two exports, fossil energy and war.

          Russia is the only country left with a functioning space program. Also, one of the few remaining virgin steel manufacturers, in large part thanks to their domestic supply of iron and cheap energy. And, like Ukraine, it is a major regional breadbasket (one of the knock on effects of the war has been a one-two punch to cereal exports into Africa and the Middle East).

          They don’t have the manpower that China and India enjoy, so they never properly built up their high end service and manufacturing base, even in the Soviet Era. But the “Russia’s just an oversized gas station” line doesn’t hold up to any kind of close inspection.

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              60% of their export is fossil energy

              China, India, and Turkiye have been ravenous in their demand for petrochemicals. These sectors have been growing at a breakneck pace.

              it is a banana republic

              Which large US business conglomerate is extracting fruit produce from Russia through armed occupation at below market rates?

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                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

                “In political science, the term banana republic describes a politically and economically unstable country with an economy dependent upon the export of natural resource.”

                They are so dependable on fossil fuel export that they try to sway all other nations to use fossil fuels and generate crisis on it to tie other nations closer to it’s only source of power in global market. Russia has less GDP than Italy. They are not super power anymore, and every nation should try to get away from their fossil fuels.

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                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

                  it came to control vast territories and transportation networks in Central America, the Caribbean coast of Colombia, and the West Indies. Although it competed with the Standard Fruit Company (later Dole Food Company) for dominance in the international banana trade, it maintained a virtual monopoly in certain regions, some of which came to be called banana republics – such as Costa Rica, Honduras, and Guatemala.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic#Etymology

                  In the early 20th century, the United Fruit Company, a multinational corporation, was instrumental in the creation of the banana republic phenomenon. Together with other American corporations, such as the Cuyamel Fruit Company, and leveraging the power of the U.S. government, the corporations created the political, economic, and social circumstances that led to a coup of the locally elected democratic government that established banana republics in Central American countries such as Honduras and Guatemala; No official apology has ever been done by any banana company or the U.S. with only the C.I.A. backed dictator of Guatemala apologizing in 2011

                  :-|

                  They are so dependable on fossil fuel export that they try to sway all other nations to use fossil fuels

                  Ah, Okay. I think I understand the problem here.

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        Everything you said is true of the GOP/American Right as well, and they do it the same way, through oligarchy, it’s just a matter of they having more time to ratchet it down where the US is just getting its official start, although it’s been working behind the scenes towards this for decades too

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      As if any USA president wouldn’t be doing the same thing.

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      Be that as it may, we also only seem to vote for people that we know aren’t going to actually do what they say, except on the issue of immigration.

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      Yeah. Unfortunately it’s been obvious to a lot of us for awhile that it would only come from the ashes of this country.

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      Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They’re desperate man, they haven’t had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

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        Lockheed Martin did October 7?

        Basically 9/11 truther style conspiracy nonsense going on here.

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          What?

          It was a joke about how we have no money to spend on healthcare for the population, but we always jump to throw endless cash at defense contractors to supply the military…

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        Zomg, Boeing planes being flown above enemy territory as surprise kamikazes (surprise to the pilots & crew).

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        Not to worry, it’s made in china, shipped from china, and then people in detention centers will be forced by ICE to package it for that bonus fascism feel for those that believe it’s made in the US and and they’re getting a deal on the T-Mobile package that costs almost 2x other providers for the same service.

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      Best we can do is give more people PTSD and then deny them disability or treatment for it. America loves dead soldiers, we can’t go too long without having a new batch.

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      And human rights. Due process. Rule of law and respect the constitution. Less inflation. More progress on our environment. Rebuild some infrastructure. Invest in some technologies of the future rather than the past. Leadership that understands basic economics and actually the art of the deal

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      We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

      Trumps response is to offer army barracks and MREs, in exchange for you becoming cannon fodder in his delusional war games.

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        The media told them Hillary is the most qualified candidate in history only Biden can beat Trump, because he appeals to moderates, where things like free healthcare and not locking immigrants in cages only appeals to far left loonies.

        The average American wants these things, its just we cant risk the Republicans winning so we have to run on the republican platform from 4 years ago.

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          None of which are socialist.

          They are all systematically weaved out of the closed, private two-party system.

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        This is the truth.

        Americans have shown where their priorities lie, time and time again.