• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

    Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

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        9 hours ago

        Boooo to Connect… you’re funny and this really made me laugh on a bad day and I like your other comments too but I can’t follow you. Boooooo

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        5 hours ago

        Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?

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        It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.

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      9 hours ago

      something people with a functional brain

      Okay but this is the internet, and im going to do strong readings of everything and also youre supposed to have all the same mental illness and knowledge as me.

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      Your last paragraph is really out there, making Israel worse because they may have accidentally killed more gays?

      How about we don’t cheer on either? How about we don’t cheer at all? Innocent civilians are dying because a bunch of dictatorial egomaniacs want to feel powerful. I don’t care what their nationality is, people are dying, I’m not cheering anyone.

      Fuck the Israeli genocidal government

      Fuck the Iranian murderous hateful theocratic dictatorship

      Fuck the murderers from Hamas.

      Take all of those against a wall and you finally might have a chance at actual peace there.

      I’m not cheering, I’m crying for the people

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        10 hours ago

        accidentally

        “woops accidentally carpet bombed an entire neighborhood didn’t know there was a gay person there! tee hee!”

        maybe if we overthrow their government again for oil money the iranians will learn better, right pheonix?

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        9 hours ago

        How is it accidental? They are committing genocide. All of their murders are purposeful. Also, I never said anything about cheering, I said I critically support Iran’s defense against Israeli aggression.

        Btw, I agree with you. The ruling class is responsible for all of this, and unless we remove them and make it impossible for a class system to exist, we will perpetually have war.

        All I’m saying is that if someone attacks me, intent on my annihilation, you don’t get to say how I fight back.

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          whos being annihilated? its not the israelis. you are saying its ok to fight back to a bully who threw the first punch without acknowledging it was the bully and his rich friends who started it in the first place.

          “Hey I only killed your mother and father and then took over your house but you fight back against me?! DIE!”-- thats israel

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            I think we’re agreeing but something got lost. I was trying to say that Israel is the bully and it’s ok to fight back against them.

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              my apologies, i am jewish and muslim (mother and father) and this scenario hits a sore spot. I don’t want anyone to have to go through what they are going through. And I thank you for your candidness.

              its a never-ending conflict and I feel hopeless about it