• Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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    This is why I went from supporting gun control to not supporting it anymore. Cops should absolutely fear armed protesters in all countries.

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      Yup.

      Been for strict gun control all my life. And, in a decent country, I still would be.

      But this isn’t a decent country. It’s a country full of low-IQ fools and fascists and racists, so it’s time to get armed and prepare for the worst, which appears to be where we’re headed.

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      Guns will not stop a tank, fighter jet or nuclear armed submarine. Does the outdated second armament go far enough?

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          Afghanistan was even worse. People often think the Vietnamese were just the Vietcong but often forget that North Vietnam had an army and an air force. The North Vietnamese airforce had far more fighter aces than the US (with the top ace having shot down 9 US aircraft).

          Afghanistan with the Taliban had next to nothing. Even when the US tightly controlled ammonium nitrate, which was the mainstay of IEDs they were able to switch to other stuff.

          This is in addition to tons upon tons of explosives salvaged from UXOs dating as far back as the Soviet-Afghan war.

          A true rebellion in the US would be actually be far deadlier. Americans are much richer than Afghanis ever were and have a fuckload more at their disposal. This is also not discounting that foreign elements who want to see the Trump regime toppled would be more than happy to send in tons of material to whatever opposing side exists, meaning they may not need to rely on shitty IED for long and would have proper factory made explosives and other weapons available.

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          This is a bit disengenuous though. Vietnam was a war on foreign soil. The vietcong did not have to win, they just had to male it politically and financially untenable for the US to carry on. Same with Afghanistan. It will never be politically or financially untenable for the fascists to keep suppressing the citizens.

      • HowdWeGetHereAnyways@lemmy.world
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        Tanks can burn

        Jets struggle against individual personnel

        I don’t really give a damn about nukes because it sounds like a fast death

        You cannot occupy an area without exposed boots on the ground and those footsoldiers are absolutely susceptible to small arms

        Stop giving up because it sounds hard

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          How do you fight the NSA though? Whne they tag you as a dissident, and the government freezes your assets and accounts. You are denied medical treatment and employment. Added to no fly lists, no travel lists etc etc. This is how the fascists maintain control, using the ‘security’ apparatus. This is what you have to contend with.

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        1 sniper can kill many, many enemy officers. This is a historical precedent.

        You don’t need heavy artillery to wage guerilla warfare and cripple an enemy’s operational capabilities.

        A bunch of farmers in Vietnam outlasted us using those tactics.

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          You’re not wrong. But with today’s tech its more unlikely that one sniper is going to be as effective. With drones equipped with IR it’s a lot harder to stay hidden. And in a more urban environment, there are cameras everywhere, and the police have access to everyone’s ring doorbell camera, its getting a lot easier for them to track people down.

      • coldasblues@sh.itjust.works
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        Im so sick of this argument. Tell me again how we were defeated in Afghanistan? The US military has a horrible track record when fighting against insurgents and guerrillas.

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          The US is Rome and we are Hannibal’s Army, as long as we don’t choke and refuse to sac Rome we absolutely have the an advantage in a lot of ways

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        I’ll let you know as soon as a nuclear armed submarine is rolling down my block