I downvoted maybe half a dozen posts. They were all right-wing bullshit and I realized that’s all the user has ever posted so I got out of there. The next day I see more of his junk and go to downvote but can’t because I’m banned.
Sure it was a dick move to poke the bear about his lifestyle of only posting things that get downvoted, but he. Went. OFF!
Accusing me of alts, thinking I’m obsessed with him, message after message… I probably have more in my inbox right now but stitching this image together took long enough.
Not me. Not my community. Not my issue. I don’t have alt names. I’m on a couple other instances but under this name. I’m not involved or even mentioned in OP, so not sure why you’re bringing me into it.
Wait wtf. I… either you’re a different universal monk…… oooorrrr…. You’ve purged/created a new account.
they were banned from .world
Well yeah, but looking through their history at zero they… had a change of heart? Math and piracy, not politics and qanon.
Welp, I just got home from work, and I had a rough day, so I can’t stop myself from replying. I’ll do just this one and log off the fediverse for the night.
If you look at the profile of the user you’re replying to, at the top you’ll see they made themselves a banner showing off how other people despise them. This could be a good thing if the people they were bragging about were like… nazis. But this individual has a reputation and they really, really earned it.
If you search ‘Universal Monk’ on the fediverse, you’ll get this at the top, “I’m Calling For the Fediverse to Ban Universal Monk.” It does a deep dive of their other accounts. A lot of what they’re doing in this thread is claiming that they’re super open and honest about who they are (and they’re on an account they’ve curated to not be such a douche canoe) which means you have to look at the other accounts to see what the deal is.
Here’s a link to a call to action on slrpnk calling to ban UM. The post isn’t interesting- the comments are. And after seeing how people make a game out of figuring out the rules of a place specifically so they can be as obnoxious as possible without copping a ban, seeing this behavior in the wild and recognizing it for what it is, sets my teeth on edge. (This is where I would move to the section to talk about evidence of puppetry and such, but I’m choosing not to hyperfocus on this.)
ETA: Okay I couldn’t help myself. I added a bit in a paragraph above, but here is a fantastic bit. This is a comment from auk. It’s under the second link. I’m copy and pasting the relevant bit here. (Auk is speaking to UM.)
Might be time to re-evaluate now that some time has passed? Sure seems like someone with a grudge against UM created accounts to stir the pot and make them look (very) bad.
Your evidence here doesn’t seem that compelling. The egregious stuff - posting from Breitbart et al, antagonistic trolling comment chains - doesn’t match UM’s conduct anywhere else (suggesting the troll-created-accounts theory for those instances of bad behavior).
And the non-egregious stuff (e.g. having multiple accounts for different instances (I do that) and posting to a community from one, not realizing another account had been bot-banned there) - those seem like the kind of missteps any average person would make under a crazy scenario like this.
I mean, what’s the alternative theory? It was all UM, and they have since COMPLETELY cleaned up their act…so they can do what? More stuff like that someday in the future? That’s a lotta pretty sincere effort for a long time, why bother? Anyone trying to attack and disrupt the Lemmyverse from an ideology/propaganda standpoint would just create new accounts. This sure seems to me like a normal-ass person who just wants to keep their account name and isn’t willing to be bullied off of it.
To be honest, you come across as the vindictive unreasonable one at this point. Not tryna be a jerk, I was curious about all this so I looked at everything you posted, and I came away feeling like you really ought to just move on. Feels like an unhealthy and inaccurate hangup you’re holding onto. But hey I’m just some stranger on the Internet lol, feel free to tell me to go fuck myself, all good!
You’re entitled to your feelings. Doesn’t bother me one bit.
I can remember what I’ve seen and share my opinions on it, same as anybody else. I wouldn’t call that an “unhealthy hangup” so much as “remembering why you don’t care for someone.”
Now, could I continue to make this case? Sure. Could I provide evidence? Absolutely. But I am not going to hyperfocus on this, I’m not interested in running a crusade, and I don’t owe anybody here anything.
I think that would be unhealthy.
Besides, several people here have gone forth with the impression to let someone have a fresh start. That’s a valid way to want to live. I can’t do that, but I won’t try and step on other people trying to believe in the good in people.
If you think I’m an asshole for saying someone has a reputation that they earned, that’s fine. If you think I’m an asshole for saying I think sharing an instance with them is cringe, that’s fine, too. I don’t regret making an attempt at finding someone else saying something I would say, and sharing that, because it wastes as little of my time on an issue as possible.
The more I dig in on something, the higher the risk of hyperfixation on it, and there is nothing to be gained here by anyone if I hyperfixate on why I dislike someone.
I’m trying to engage in this discussion, but do it as lightly as possible, which is why I’m only replying to one reply I get at a time in this thread and move on. (I responded to yours this time. I’ll be ignoring all others here for the rest of the night.)
Well, fair enough. I’m certainly not looking for an argument either.
I figured you weren’t! And I don’t blame you for jumping to someone’s defense. We need more people like that, so thanks.
Thank you! Why would I create two personas that post from totally opposite sides of the political spectrum? If I were actually conservative, why would I post literally hundreds of pro-socialist, pro-union, pro-piracy, pro-anarchism articles? Pro-socialist book reviews. etc. I’m working on getting socialist party more involved in my local union activities. I was part of a union my entire career.
So my motive is to be secretly conservative while I publicly post articles all over Lemmy that are anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, pro-union? Even using Lemmy-logic, I don’t get how people think that I am some super conservative operative. lol
And to your point, even if all the nonsense about me were true, anyone can look at my post history and see that all I do is post anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, pro-union stuff now (always did, but still…), so shouldn’t people be happy they have converted such a terrible conservative to their side? My post history is public, and dates are on there too.
What other accounts? My other main lemmy account was https://sh.itjust.works/u/UniversalMonk account. Posts are public there too.
And I recently started https://feddit.online/u/UniversalMonk And posts are public there too. I also have a xander science one. and I was on vegantheory before it closed down.
All are socialist-oriented and/or third party oriented. My posts and profile for .world is still up to.
Are you forgetting that everyone on .world was mad because I advocated third-party voting BEFORE the election. Back when it was traitorous to say so on Lemmy? It’s cool now, but def wasn’t cool to advocate third-party then.
So what alts are you referring to?! I’ve always advocated third-party voting and always said the duopoly sucks. I mention it in all of my profiles too.
The reason for the alts I mentioned is because you never know when an instance will shut down. Lemm.ee the 2nd or 3rd biggest instance is shutting down. Pefect example. And I used to be on lemm.ee too. profile is public there too.
Yep, and they gave in to the mob-rule and banned me. But look at every single post i made on slrpnk. Socialist or solar oriented. The mod actually reached out before he banned me, gave me the reasons (the mob-ruling people) and offered me time to switch my stuff over. So I have no ill-will for slrpnk whatsoever. They were totally cool about it.
Again, see the lemm.ee instance shutting down. The vast majority of my posts are from here and st.justworks. Both histories are public.
All you are saying is that people don’t like me. Ok. We know that. I KNOW that people don’t like me because I didn’t vote for Biden/Harris/Trump. I have always said they are the same. And I always will. Proud of the fact that I advocated for third party then, before it was well-accepted.
I don’t wanna turn this into a political thing, but let’s face it. That’s why you and others are mad at me: I didn’t vote for Biden/Harris/Trump and was open about it.
Now having said all that. I have nothing to do with OP. OP isn’t banned from any of my communities. You all turned this in to a UM fest, I am merely defending myself.
ALL my posts from every instance I have been on are public. People are fine not to like me because I don’t worship the teet of the capitalist duopoly. Cool!
But don’t go around making up shit that’s not true like that I’m the guy who banned OP. I have never even heard of OP until this post today. Enough people hate me for real reason, people don’t have to make up stuff. (not meaning YOU specifically, I mean the others talking about alts that aren’t me.)
Also thanks for your posts about threads to ban me. I AM proud of those, because they show in black and white, for all to see, the mob-rule bullying that happens to people who aren’t exactly doing what you want. That’s why they are also in my profile graphic. I’m not trolling, I’m wearing the mob-rule madness as a badge because I’m glad I stood up to you all then, and standing up to you all now.
But I got nothing to do with OP’s situation. I think this is all going off topic, and people should just concentrate on OP’s complaint.
Also the AUK you are talking about uses a bot to ban from his community regardless of if you’ve never voted there, or posted there. The mod logs are full of his bot bans/unbans.
The admin during that conversation disagreed with him.
In fact, I’m not banned from that dude’s comm. I checked just now. lol
No change of heart. All my posts are public here and on .world too. Take a look. You’ll see that I was always third-party. In fact, that’s how the hate started. I was posting articles about the Green Party candidate to the .world politics comm. Then switched my vote over to Socialist Party.
Back in the day, that was considered treason because I wasn’t voting for Biden or Harris. Now Lemmy is cool w third party. Back then, they def were not cool. I was called a russian troll, said I’d disappear after the election, etc. One poster in particular who’s posting in this very thread, used to say I was a russian traitor for supporting third party.
All my posts and comments are public. People are just holding grudges because I didn’t vote for the duopoly. I was proud of it then. Proud of it now. Off-topic though. I’m not the person OP was talking about and OP isn’t banned from any of my communities anyway.
Oh banned from way more places than just .world! I stand by every post though. I proudly stood against the duopoly before standing against the duopoly was cool. I haven’t changed my mind: Third-party forever. Union forever. No regrets!
But off-topic. Let’s not turn this into a UM fest. I had nothing to do with OP or his banning. He’s not even banned in my communities.
ok, don’t care, not my country. you’re singularly responsible for turning this thread into a you-fest. you just need to not reply.
I didn’t bring my name up tho! I only started responding to people who started saying my name–you included. I didn’t start any of this drama. I’m not even in main OP’s post! He’s not banned from any of my stuff and I’ve never even heard of him
So I shouldn’t reply to a bunch of people making up false shit about me and my motivations?! Nah, I’ll stand up for myself. Thanks for the advice, anyway.
But yes, I’m happy to move on if people stop bringing up my name when I have nothing to do with OP, OP’s situation, and OP is not banned in any of my communities anyway.
I know. Everytime I see they made a dbzer0 alt I cringe but nothing I can do.
Tbh, I don’t give much credence to the reports about Universal Monk. It’s not hard to imagine a couple of trolls spinning up fake “alt” accounts to impersonate him and to get him instance banned over his vote third party stance. You know how unhinged the Democrats get when someone tries to vote with their values.
Anyway, whatever they have been accused of doing in the past, their account on dbzer0 has been pretty wholesome overall. We decided to give him a second chance here. Let bygones be bygones and all that. And so far at least, no problems. Make of that what you will.
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I’m curious if this plus allowing AI on our own time will get .world to scorn us and call us Tankies, somehow.
You can block/ignore me and you won’t see any of my posts or comments. I had nothing to do with OP and he’s not banned from any of my communities, so off-topic anyway.
Evidentially, you have a bunch of accounts on a bunch of different instances, unless you are suggesting you can somehow block UM@star dot star or something…
https://sh.itjust.works/post/32558376?scrollToComments=true
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com , was that SDF account yours or not?
Yep, I used to be on there. That brings up a great point though; I’ve posted political posts of all angles to that sub, including conservative articles.
So why would I create two personas that post from totally opposite sides of the political spectrum? If I were actually conservative, why would I post literally hundreds of pro-socialist, pro-union, pro-piracy, pro-anarchism articles? I have posted way more socialist articles than anything else. What would be the point of that if I were really conservative? Wouldn’t that be counter-productive?
tl;dr: If I wanted to post conservative articles–and I have–I wouldn’t create alt conservative personas to do it. Look up dates. This has been my main account for long time: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
It’s fine, I was mostly showing that your narrative changed quite a while over time
I’ve never hid the fact that I am on more than one instance. I gave a list. I’m on here, sh.just.works, and pifed-feddit. Lots of people are. Blaze, one of Lemmy’s most respected and proflic posters has multiple accounts. That’s not in any way against any rules. Every post I have made on every instance is public. I also used to be on .world. My profile is still on there too. Check the dates of my posts, that’s public too.
I use my same username. Same profile. Same content. I can’t ban-evade, because it’s my same fucking name.
OP is not banned in any of my communities. OP has not mentioned me at all. I am not the subject of OP’s complaint. I never heard of the guy.
Very easy to ban my username. Ya don’t even have to do it all at once. Just anytime ya see a post or comment, click ban user. Takes 3 seconds. Never see my post again. Even if I was on 100 instances, it’d be easy.
Notice tho how many here hate me, talk shit about me but haven’t blocked me. Why do you think that is? Notice how they haven’t posted ANY PROOF that I am the other person or any other person. They always give a history of why people don’t like me, or links of people not liking me. But never any proof or valid reasoning that I use different names. Fuck all, I’m here right now posting. I don’t need alt names. I haven’t been banned from here (yet), so why would I need an alt name? I post all over Lemmy, why would I need an alt name? I can ban people right now from communities I have started. In fact, I have banned plenty of people from communities. But not OP.
They say I sent harrasing DM’s. Ok, well as we can see by OP, you can post harassing DM’s. So let’s see some of these harassing DM’s I’ve sent.
They say there was a rant that the musk guy said that was word-for-word mine. Ok, where? I looked but didn’t see that. Never proof how of me being someone else. You know why? Cuz I’m not.
And to the naysayers that will opinion that it’s impossible to prove someone has an alt name, then why bring it up? So is just talking shit about someone you don’t like, in some OP’s non-related thread a cool thing now? Seems bad form to me.
If you wanna think I am someone else, then fine. But it’s not fair to OP to have this entire thread be about me, since he didn’t even mention me.
If someone has a problem with how I mod my communities, and many do, then why don’t they start a fucking post here about me?! Seems like they should have lots of proof and complaints, so yeah let’s start one about me. As we can see by this thread, it’ll probably get a bajillion upvotes about how much I suck. So think of all the good internet points someone can get! lol
But make it a separate one, let’s not hijack this guy’s thread.
I am reducing the number of accounts I use thanks to Piefed multicommunities.
It’s fair that if people want to block you, they should be able to do so with one or two accounts max.
I now limit myself to this account and the Piefed.social one.
But you had a lot of accounts just recently. Your current profile lists 5 names. So why ok for you, not ok for me? Not counting all the troll accounts that aren’t even me. I’ve reduced the number of accounts I use too. This one, sht.justworks (which isn’t that active), and a piefed account (feddit.online).
your profile right now:
I just remembered you had this one a while back
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk@lemmyusa.com?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
Feel free to look at my post history. I’m not new, different, or purged. My post history is public: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
Gotta love how people make shit up about users they dislike.
It’s disturbing just how effective this campaign has been. I think part of the reason is that many admins just tend to go along with the consensus when these things are occurring, because it’s easier to take someone’s word for whats going on than actually look at all the details, especially when it’s been playing out over years now. We’ve all been guilty of this.
But the fact is:
Multiply that a dozen times and you have a successful mud slinging campaign to get someone multi-instance banned.
I will agree at time’s UM has been… unsaviory and dickish, but its just bizarre lemmy wants him gone, instead of any of the major players that make other instances horrid. The ones who join places, act like a dick, then cry when the mess gets cleaned up.
I don’t enjoy associating with people who admit that they intentionally antagonize other people so they get in trouble. That really, really, really sticks in my craw. Not understanding social norms or the billions of things that aren’t said in rules, or how some folks can violate things that are and others can’t, is a massive noose around the neck of people who are neurologically atypical, so someone claiming they do those things but ‘only’ against people they deem deserve it is a massive problem for me.
What does this mean? I’m not being a dick, I genuinely would like to know what you are referring to. Can you explain that a bit more.
I think you’re saying that it’s already difficult enough for neuro-atypical people to process things, so that when you see someone you think is being intentionally annoying, it frustrates you. But I’m not sure how that relates to this thread. Are you talking about shitposting or something else?
You don’t have to explain if it’s upsetting to you or anything. Or DM me if you prefer to keep it private. (I’m being serious, not sarcastic)
Any names in mind?
Rheori (if I’m spelling that right), FreedomAdvocate, SatansMoldyCumFart, and PugJesus has been routinely rude to various instances and then cries when banned for it.
Also various mods of .world have had some of the worst moderation possible. Banning for disagreeing despite evidence proving them wrong.
It’s basically how .ml treats anything about China. Proving them wrong means you’re banned.
Yep! I’m pretty sure I’ve even wrote to admin of this instance to point out when someone started impersonating me. It got to be so many accounts that I stopped doing that though.
At peak UM hate, there were something like 45 instances with my name that were not me. Some guy hated me so much he’d make a list of all the instances, and post it to every conversation I was involved in. lol
Also saw a few fun ones like, “REALUniversalMonk” and “UniMonk” and “UniversalMonksHairyArse” or something like that, but those never lasted long because they’d just get banned immediately when they posted weird ass nazi shit anyway.
It’s pretty much died down recently. Most people know I post just from this one, sh.itjust.works and piefed.feddit. This is my main one tho, because…pirates!
I was on slrpnk, but to your point, a mob campaign started, so the admin there gave me a heads up they were banning and deleting me. Even tho I had never posted anything political at all from that account. But he gave me time to switch everything over before he deleted all my stuff, so he’s cool people.
To be honest, I’m surprised that admins even let my name be started on other instances now!
I recall that, and someone started impersonating one of our users with transphobic trolling shit, talking about pig pet play stuff. Weird as well.
They could just… go on with their lives. Instead they dedicate hundreds of hours into this instead of reading a book, watching movies, playing games, etc.