“the girls are fighting, aren’t they?”

  • Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 hours ago

    Above all of this should be the glaringly historical fact that Hollywood was literally founded to escape lawyers for European film groups trying to bring those founders-to-be to justice for their, well, piracy of said films… 🤷🏼‍♂️ I mean, if anyone should deserve an ol’ fashioned legal rogering, it’s those hypocritical backbirths.

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        13 hours ago

        That is also true, considering he was an infamous patent troll of his time. Fuckin’ killed our boy Nikolai, by proxy, and now the ass-clown is named as the inventor of all manner of things he stole from other, more capable innovators. Fuck him sideways with a Faraday pineapple.

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      16 hours ago

      I’m their defense, given that they are massive settled business, banning ai image generations will more likely hurt younger competition rather than hurt Disney.

      so far, the only AI that they use was for some trippy effect for a TV show. and it was used because it does look uncanny.

      they just want less competition

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 hours ago

    If Disney wants to stop me from using genAI or pirating, they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

    Intellectual property is a myth, copyright is nothing more than calling dibs, and neither have enough merit for me to give a shit about either. Once an idea exists and is released into the public, it’s mine to use however I want. And use it I will, regardless of whatever the artists or developers who made it think.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    Big tech about to erupt into a civil war over whether or not they got into the AI slop bubble early.

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      14 hours ago

      Fuck Disney and all but midjourney getting fucked over to hell and back would be a Christmas miracle

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    2 days ago

    Imagine if Midjourney wins and the only thing you need to legally pirate anything is to self host a LLM.

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      18 hours ago

      AFAIK, you don’t actually need actually need an LLM to do it, as long as you do what Meta did and not upload anything at all. The one who did the copyright infringement is the one who supplied the data to you.

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          10 hours ago

          I imagine that they could find that leeching is illegal if you upload anything to any other torrent clients. I think Meta was claiming they were literally in the clear because they were being assholes and configuring their clients not to share at all.

          But yeah, keep your ratio above 1, or you’re a jerk.

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      1 day ago

      If Midjourney wins, other media corporations are going to host bigger and better LLMs and do the pirating. The “prompters” who think that they’re being fighting corporations are the best corporate tools.

  • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    So obviously actually being an artist who draws things and someone using an AI slop machine are very different in practice, but I find it interesting that they’re saying the images are unauthorized copies. Is it illegal to draw these characters now too? Or is it different because a human did it?

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      15 hours ago

      They can and do issue takedowns for drawings all the time, but yes, they are more lenient when people create them

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      1 day ago

      The argument could be made that because the image generator is essentially a regurgitator with no artistic interpretation, there is no transformative artistic value in it. It’s like applying a filter with extra steps.

      Also the generators charge for access, so they are profiting off of the IP. That’s quite different to making something for personal use or releasing it for free.

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      1 day ago

      I’m pretty sure it is illegal but tolerated. If drawing is legal, I don’t understand why Fan game’s are illegal then.

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      1 day ago

      It has always been an infringement to draw their characters lol (apart from fair use which doesn’t apply to most works)

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    2 days ago

    The future of piracy is going to be running your own LLM with all the corpo-mandated guardrails disabled.

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    2 days ago

    Disney is insufferable. Also another reason to have these models as open source and downloadable. They won’t be able to really take it down.

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      2 days ago

      I guarantee they’re also adding AI slop trained on other people’s work into their own content, while simultaneously suing anyone who does the same with theirs.

      Fuck Disney

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        1 day ago

        This is the thing… Adding insult to injury, the outcome of this is going to be (if it plays in Disney’s favor) a paid model in which generating characters resembling Disney’s will cost extra. So they will steal and profit