• Wilco@lemm.ee
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    Only one thing to do now. We have to treat all ICE agents like armed criminals until they show their face, a badge, and a warrant.

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      I saw zero indications that ICE agents weren’t criminals before this.

    • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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      Something something… bad guy with a gun… good guy with a gun?

      So lets be the good guys with guns. Every American should perform citizens arrest on these so called “ICE Agents”, if there is resistance, you are entitiled to use lethal force to defend yourself. 😏

      Kidding, don’t actually do this…

      Unless… 🤔

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        Agreed. It is easy to say “do it” … but there are a lot of things that could go wrong for a good guy with a gun.

        I was thinking more along the lines of trespassing them if they are on your property or at a business that the employees may not want ICE at. Also maybe calling the police on them … an armed guy in a mask with a Temu printed Tshirt that says “ICE” is certainly suspicious.

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        Ha! We all know ICE agents dont get local warrants.

        They are supposedly running around Chicago with Douglas County warrants. If that is real it means ICE is getting warrants from a judge 2 and a half hours away

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      This is something I’ve thought about a lot. Obviously this is not legal advice, don’t try this shit based on this comment. Say a cop shows up to your door with a warrant and says “Let me in to search your house.” How the fuck am I supposed to react to this? If a cop asks to search something, you should always say no (unless there’s some sort of implied consent like breathalyzers in Georgia for drivers). But if they have a warrant, how do I even know it’s a real warrant? I’m not a legal expert. I don’t wanna sound like a sovereign citizen type who believes random words make you immune to things but I feel like the proper thing to do is say something like “I don’t consent, but I’m not resisting.” Then just stand there. Don’t close the door, but don’t open it more either.

      Like imagine a vampire. Right? They can only come in if they’re invited. As humans we use certain phrases to make orders sound like requests to be polite. I used to get in trouble with my mom as a kid because of it. She’d say things like “Please do X” and I’d protest saying because she’s saying please it’s like she’s asking, not telling. That’s not necessarily the best example of it, but it helps demonstrate the point. “Let me do X” is sort of a request to be given permission to do X without actually asking to do X. If they have a warrant, why ask at all? Why not just come in?

      Idk, I pray that I’m never in a situation like this.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        If you are peaceful minded then speed dial your lawyer and follow their instructions.

        If you want to use the castle doctrine then you have to do a lot of homework first.