https://feddit.org/post/13994826/7165181
Everything I downvoted was because I genuinely do not think it’s good. Like meat is not going to cure cancer.
I actually really like eating meat I just try to life a life that gives others room to enjoy this earth too without mutually destroying it.
Please tell me how I am the asshole :)
But if there’s a community spreading harmful disinformation and it pops up in my all, I should give it an upvote for the effort or what?
I see a lot of these communities browsing by all lately and when I downvote the posts I see (which are literal harmful disinformation) I get banned for downvoting.
If you profoundly disagree with any community views, I suggest you block and move on. Going there and downvoting everything is a dick move.
In this case, it’s not a profound disagreement with the community’s purpose (carnivore diet). I find the concept interesting.
But if I see some horrendous thing from that community (Youtuber saying eating meat cures cancer) in my All feed and downvote it, then apparently I’m being a dick and deserve to be banned immediately?
That video was one ladies personal testimonial and she didn’t just do carnivore, she also incorporated prolonged fasts intermixed with carnivore refeeding. Her single experience was that her inoperable tumor went into remission. That isn’t the same thing as “carnivore cures cancer.”
The interesting cancer research going on with glioblastomas is with a ketogenic protocol (not specifically carnivore) - a press (keto), and pulse (glucose and glutamine suppression) protocol - which has demonstrated some promising early data. Taking advantage of the warburg effect (i.e. cancer only metabolizes glucose and glutamine).
Now going back to the testimonial lady, she didn’t following a observed protocol, she wasn’t using a press/pulse protocol. She just kinda stumbled around and for some reason her inoperable tumor went away. It’s interesting, but hardly anything to hang your hat on. However, the value of the underlying testimonial is still there - if nothing else is working for your specific situation you can try carnivore - it couldn’t hurt.
No but if your ONLY interference with this community (or any community) is to downvote, you have no interest being there.
Actively combatting harmful medical misinformation is not a “dick move”, they deserve every downvote and worse
Then combat it with links?
The problem is - what you consider harmful misinformation I consider foundational nutrition. How can we reconcile our different perspectives?
I see a few options
I prefer 2, but I’m happy with 1 - I find 3 boring and not a good use of my time.
If you truly prefer 2 then you wouldn’t automatically ban people for downvoting posts in your communities. Downvoting things on my way past in my All feed is not an act of disrespect to your whole worldview.
You don’t downvote comments from All, do you? Wouldn’t that require you to go into the post and actively downvote them one by one?
I don’t know what you’re quoting here because I dont think that was at me.
I was pretty sure I downvoted like 3 posts and a couple of comments in those, but then upvoted another one and some comments in that thread. However, looking back at the comm, my UI shows I have only downvoted one post and no comments, so I must have actually been banned after downvoting literally 1 post. I only realised I was banned when I tried to comment on a post, so was still trying to participate without even realizing I couldn’t.
You can upvote/downvote direcrly from All, but I think its pretty normal behaviour to click on it from there and then upvote/downvote. Downvoting literally every comment would be a lot more work and is a pretty dumb move.
I’m quoting the mod’s comment to OP from the image on this post in reference to your quote above.
Yet that’s exactly what OP is stated to have done by the mod.
Right, so you ignored entirely what this tangent is about.
The mod has stated they have automatic tooling for banning people who downvote on their communities and personally I was banned after one downvote. That cuts off any opposed discussion at a very early juncture.
Not to mention this ban extends to all communities they moderate, so the OP reason “community mismatch” in Carnivore also gets you banned from a bunch of other communities that aren’t related to diet at all.
I mean, you can do whatever you want in the community you create, but by definition, all of the above is power trippin’.
Yeah, this is intentional, if I as a human have to review someone’s behavior and approve a community ban then I don’t want to have to do it for each of my communities one after another. It’s a broad heuristic. I probably should improve the tooling to only do the ban by a group of communities rather then all I moderate.
As you can imagine in the past removing someone from a single community causes them to go to my other communities and throw negativity around.
Ideally each community would have a moderator account so they arn’t obviously linked - that is a optimization for the future.
Did you contact the mod directly? They’ve also said they’re happy to unban but you’d have to behave like an adult instead of throwing a tantrum.
It’s really not power tripping unless they directly refuse to engage and remove the ban after you’ve attempted to resolve it civilly. Mods often use tools to manage their responsibilities and tools can make mistakes, as can mods.
As long as it aligns with what you believe, otherwise it’s power tripping.
Good point