• resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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    What did democrats offer in the last election? “We’re not going back”? Okay, that’s the bare minimum. “Everything’s fine, what’s your problem?” Dangerously out of touch.

    Democrats have been hostile to the working class since Clinton. Maybe they should reexamine that.

    I’m sorry, but in a democracy you have to earn votes. Being the lesser of two evils doesn’t just hand you an election.

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      Democrats have been hostile to the working class since Clinton.

      Wrong. Period.

      I’m sorry, but in a democracy you have to earn votes.

      Sure, sure. Okay well, we now return you to Fascism In Your Face, already in progress. See you in just over a year when we all fail to stop it again due to idealistic excuses.

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      I’m sorry, but in a democracy you have to earn votes.

      In a democracy, the citizenry are obligated to vote according to the needs of the nation. If they fail to take this obligation seriously, inevitably, they surrender democracy to oligarchic ghouls who promise them entertaining distractions.

      The increasing view of politics as reality TV entertainment is a major contributor to the fascist bullshit we find ourselves immersed in at present.

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        From the outside, it seems like democrats enjoy losing. They refuse to adopt progressive policies that have broad support.

        No one owes democrats votes. Democrats need to earn them.

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          From the outside, it seems like democrats enjoy losing. They refuse to adopt progressive policies that have broad support.

          Broad support until someone actually champions them. There’s a reason even progressive ballot initiatives routinely fail, and when they succeed, rarely by what the issue alone polls.

          No one owes democrats votes. Democrats need to earn them.

          Oh, I’m so glad my existence has to be earned. If the blue fuckwits aren’t an entertaining enough circus, I’m so glad my fellow citizens think it’s okay to hand the country over to fascists and let them cut all the throats they want to.

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            Who is abandoning gay and the trans community? It isn’t progressives. Democrats have said “we can’t be the party of pronouns.”

            Sounds like a lovely group.

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              Who is abandoning gay and the trans community? It isn’t progressives.

              Okay, and? That doesn’t change the fact that the whole “Dems haven’t EARNED the non-fascist vote!” shite is telling marginalized groups their existence has to be earned.

              Sounds like a lovely group.

              Weasels are better than Nazis. But I guess they didn’t ‘earn’ the votes, so it’s a good thing the noble and wise electorate chose fascism instead. Murdering marginalized groups’ll surely teach the Dems!

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                If the Dems can’t learn from this, just like they couldn’t learn from Hillary’s failure or Obama’s successes, then they’re going to lose the next election too.

                It’s not a matter of “deserving”, it’s a matter of PR. The only logical explanatiom for why the Dems keep throwing easy elections is that they don’t want to win.