• resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world
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    From the outside, it seems like democrats enjoy losing. They refuse to adopt progressive policies that have broad support.

    No one owes democrats votes. Democrats need to earn them.

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      From the outside, it seems like democrats enjoy losing. They refuse to adopt progressive policies that have broad support.

      Broad support until someone actually champions them. There’s a reason even progressive ballot initiatives routinely fail, and when they succeed, rarely by what the issue alone polls.

      No one owes democrats votes. Democrats need to earn them.

      Oh, I’m so glad my existence has to be earned. If the blue fuckwits aren’t an entertaining enough circus, I’m so glad my fellow citizens think it’s okay to hand the country over to fascists and let them cut all the throats they want to.

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        Who is abandoning gay and the trans community? It isn’t progressives. Democrats have said “we can’t be the party of pronouns.”

        Sounds like a lovely group.

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          Who is abandoning gay and the trans community? It isn’t progressives.

          Okay, and? That doesn’t change the fact that the whole “Dems haven’t EARNED the non-fascist vote!” shite is telling marginalized groups their existence has to be earned.

          Sounds like a lovely group.

          Weasels are better than Nazis. But I guess they didn’t ‘earn’ the votes, so it’s a good thing the noble and wise electorate chose fascism instead. Murdering marginalized groups’ll surely teach the Dems!

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            If the Dems can’t learn from this, just like they couldn’t learn from Hillary’s failure or Obama’s successes, then they’re going to lose the next election too.

            It’s not a matter of “deserving”, it’s a matter of PR. The only logical explanatiom for why the Dems keep throwing easy elections is that they don’t want to win.

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              The only logical explanatiom for why the Dems keep throwing easy elections is that they don’t want to win.

              Christ.

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                  They literally lost to chintzy 80’s villain Donald Trump, twice.

                  Yep, while progressive candidates in other races swept the board, right?

                  No?

                  It’s almost like this is an immensely damaged country filled with low-information voters with far-right notions deeply engrained in the cultural consciousness.

                  No, no, that can’t be it. It must be that the helpless, feckless Dems are simultaneously masterminds running a massive and well-coordinated campaign to ensure progressives don’t win the 80% of the vote they clearly and easily could get.

                  Fuck, man. I WANT progressives to win. I think it is SMARTER in addition to more moral to run on progressive platforms in comparison to the dipshit triangulation shit the DNC wants to push.

                  But that’s not the same as thinking that there’s an easy victory just waiting for someone to reach out and grab it.

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                    What progressive candidates? You mean the literal socialists on Seattle’s city council or are you talking about Democrat Progressives who get systematically shut out of the party?

                    It’s almost like this is an immensely damaged country filled with low-information voters with far-right notions deeply engrained in the cultural consciousness.

                    More than one thing can be true. Hell, most Americans think the Democrats are a left-wing party.