The Outer Worlds 2's Anti-Capitalist Message Sounds Awfully Hypocritical To Me Now Microsoft Is Charging $80 For The Obsidian RPG
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Obsidian and Xbox charging $80 for The Outer Worlds is a direct betrayal of its themes and characters.
  • Net_Runner :~$@lemmy.zipEnglish
    3·
    1 day ago

    Avowed was cool but not really worth the 70. I doubt TOW2 is worth 80, and specifically especially because Microsoft/ActiBlizzard is just following the Nintendo train, which is what everyone knew was going to happen with triple A studios.

    • Gronk@aussie.zoneEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      It’s crazy to think that a handful of people who have floated around Obsidian/Interplay/Black Isle have created (in my opinion) some of the best games to have ever existed.

      You put a name like Chris Avellone or Tim Cain onto a project and I’m going to pay more attention to it than any AAA with millions put into trailers and other bullshit to sell you down the river.

    • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
      247·
      3 days ago

      This Thread-

      “We should improve gaming somewhat”

      “Just don’t buy the game!”

      • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        That’s sort of how it works though isn’t it? If games at $80 are too much then less people will buy, profits will drop and publishers will either lower prices, or vanish and get replaced by ones that lower prices.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        201·
        3 days ago

        Here’s the thing, there are already vendors doing largely what. Indies generally:

        • cost less
        • release in a playable state
        • take risks on new ideas
        • don’t have microtransactions

        But people usually talk about big AAA games in these complaints. Buy indies and we’ll end up with more variety.

        • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          3 days ago

          I buy mostly indies now, usually on gog or itch too.

          But sometimes on steam if it’s multiplayer.

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    13611·
    3 days ago

    I’m not going to bother reading the article, because you can both be anti-capitalist and participate in the system as it exists today. The developers can’t pay rent with good vibes.

  • Quazatron@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    3 days ago

    Well, for starters, games are going to get more expensive.

    That is their prerogative. Mine is not buying overpriced games.

  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    387·
    3 days ago

    “Capitalism is when pay money for things. I am very smart.”

    Jesus Christ, I am begging people to actually learn what capitalism is before writing takes likes this.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    371·
    3 days ago

    I’m sure if it was up to the developers and creative minds behind the game this would have never been an issue. Sure, things like inflation have made the process of making games more expensive, but it’s not like the extra money is going to actually go back to the developers. I’m so sick of this “games are more expensive to make” bullshit while they treat their employees like garbage and make them work ungodly hours. Micro$oft makes more money in one day than most of us or any of the developers will ever see in our entire lifetimes yet they need to lecture us on why we need to give them more money.

    To be clear, I hold no grudge against the actual developers of this game. The first one was pretty decent and I’m sure this next one will be relatively good as well. But remember that we are talking about the company that forced Arkane to make Redfall when they had no desire to make it, and after it failed fired everyone at Arkane Austin and closed the studio. This isn’t about making their money back to cover the cost of development, it’s about making as much profit as possible with the least amount of effort possible.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      Games continue to get cheaper to make as middleware improves and advancing hardware lessens the need for optimisation. If companies choose to spend more on games despite this then that’s their problem.

  • commander@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    3 days ago

    Play that years down the line. The first one was OK but I paid like $15 for it with the expansion. Obsidian hasn’t had a clear jump in quality since the MS purchase. Possibly even signs of writing regression with Avowed so can’t imagine much hype for this game

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Grounded is fun, and 2 is right around the corner, though they did (and plan similarly for 2) to release it in phases in early access and gather community feedback at every step

  • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
    485·
    3 days ago

    Capitalism deals with industry being owned privately.

    If you want to complain about Microsoft being a publicly-traded, private-sector company rather than a worker cooperative or part of the government or whatever, okay, at least I can see where you’re coming from.

    But a socialist economy is perfectly compatible with having high prices.

  • Prox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    371·
    3 days ago

    Microsoft doesn’t expect anyone to pay $80. They expect people to sub to Game Pass instead.

  • katze@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    171·
    3 days ago

    I guess the author learned that being anti-capitalist is somewhat trendy and couldn’t resist writing this opus. But this has nothing to do with the game or games in general.

  • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.worldEnglish
    181·
    3 days ago

    Of course you can - if an adequate share of that money goes to the devs, the only issue is the money that doesn’t go to the devs. And they very likely don’t have much control over that money