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I bet trump woke up angry today. And that makes me feel good.
He won’t be angry until someone who can read at a 5th grade level explains it to him. Using really simple and small words.
Very legal, very cool.
US also arrests innocent people from Denmark with no due process
Can someone explain this, isn’t this already an EU market through EU membership? Fuck Trump btw.
Greenland is not a full member of the EU, since a referendum in 1985. But it’s a territory of Denmark, which is a member, and citizens of Greenland are citizens of the EU. It seems complicated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_and_the_European_Union
I guess not every obscure mining company is allowed free
reignrain and Greenland is not in the EU.They don’t count through Denmark? I’m curious, sorry if these questions are a duh.
It’s actually fairly common for mostly-autonomous overseas parts of an EU member state to not be part of the EU. The Dutch Caribbean and French Pacific islands have the same status as Greenland. They’re quite independent in terms of domestic policy and also not typically very close to Europe, so applying the EU’s laws to them is not always practical or useful. I believe they all have standing invites to join if they wish, though.
There’s actually a tiny exclave of Germany that is completely surrounded by Switzerland and is also not in the EU customs union, so sometimes it can happen on mainland Europe. Other EU stuff does apply in that exclave that does not in Greenland, so it’s not quite the same, but still
The two British military bases on Cyprus do still fall within the EU customs union despite being British Overseas Territories, so a tiny bit of the UK that sort of didn’t Brexit
There’s actually a tiny exclave of Germany that is completely surrounded by Switzerland and is also not in the EU customs union, so sometimes it can happen on mainland Europe.
Heligoland is not in the customs union either, they have their own tax regime. Or rather the federation has enabled Schleswig-Holstein to give Heligoland their own tax regime: No VAT, no usual alcohol, tobacco etc taxes, instead a municipal import tax is levied without which they’d have rather empty coffers. Or at least that was the situation before the renewable boom: They were reliant on duty-free tourism, now there’s plenty offshore wind maintenance to do.
…which, thinking about it, should mean that you can produce alcohol on the island and sell it completely tax-free. And they do have a whisky distillery.
Fun fact: The island is called, in the local Frisian dialect, “deät Lun”, “the land”. A whopping 1237 people on 4.2km2.
Well I love a whisky but I’ve never had a German one. I’ll have to have a look out for it, especially if it’s gonna be a bit cheaper!
The thing about the name reminds me a little of some of Scotland’s islands. The Orkney and Shetland islands, two archipelagoes in the north, both call their biggest island “Mainland”
No, the questions are not obviously answered. I don’t know.
This confusion might be why Trump thinks it’s free real estate.
They’re an Overseas Country and thus not economically integrated into the EU, though they have a “most favoured third country” type status that is they will never be treated worse when it comes to tariffs and such than the best-treated non-member country.
OCT citizens are EU citizens so they have freedom of movement and everything, can even vote in EU elections as long as they happen to reside within ordinary EU territory. I think the French overseas territories even regularly vote in EU elections. It’s a clusterfuck of asterisks.
Most OCTs have that status because they’re so far away from the mainland that the trade they’re doing with the EU is a relatively small portion of their overall trade, that doesn’t really apply to Greenland they left over the EU fisheries policy. Which is also the reason the Faroer and Iceland aren’t in. It would also be the reason why Norway isn’t in if the actual reason wasn’t them being a rich petrostate. The fisheries policy really sucks.
Not a stupid question. EU law is complicated as fuck. Denmark is a full EU member but Greenland is an autonomous territory. Basically an ex-colony that was headed for full independece before Trump decided he wants to have it. I guess they’ll opt for closer ties with the EU now, instread.
I don’t think independence outside of the EU was ever a particularly realistic option either way. Maybe association with Canada, but then that would’ve been quite similar to the situation with Denmark.
Going it alone, 50k people on a giant landmass, while also being of the opinion that independence should not set the country back in living standards etc. will always be a tall order.
I was kinda hoping over the decades that they’d manage to pressure the EU to reform the clusterfuck that is the common fisheries policy (which is the reason they left) but with all that mining business coming up it could be that they just won’t care. Iceland? Could rely on exporting energy instead of fish. Norway? Fish is an issue for them but the actual one is that they don’t want to share their oil riches. That leaves the Faroer who… do they even exist? It’s kinda like with elves, you hear tales of them and some evidence that can be interpreted favourably but do they really exist? I mean really?
lol
