• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Remember when we called out Biden’s health and were called useful idiots, and it was a big lie pushed for by the media?

    And now they’re selling a book based in that reality. I guess when you notice things for free that’s propaganda, but when you can sell it that’s factual media.

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      Solidarity. They shall never be allowed to forget and the should never be allowed to live down the material damage they did to this community, and that effectively, they were the useful idiots who handed the office of president to Trump, by insisting on strategies and tactics that were doomed to fail.

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          I think they have a kind of understanding.

          The understand that they are wrong, and that the consequence of their wrongness is Trumpism. However, they also understand that if they were to acknowledge that they are wrong, they would lose power.

          For people like this, its more about maintaining individual power, than it is opposing fascism. Its the same for the apologists.

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          They understand it completely, they just want to gaslit people into thinking its sane to support people who are actively hurting the ideas they swear to uphold.

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        Yeah while progressives keep bitching that their even older guy lost a primary ten years ago and somehow think they’re doing something.

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            Documenting this in case the troll tries to delete their own words.

            What a shock they’re aginast Return2Ozma being correct the entire time. .world still hates R2O for correctly calling out what would cost the Dems the election.

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          Because the DNC tipped the scales in the favor of policies that wouldn’t work against Trump, yes he lost. They did it twice. And he still supported them in the fight because he wanted Trump to lose. Bernie did more speeches for Hillary than he did for himself. Bernie still supported her, Biden, and Harris.

          And where’s Hillary and Harris? Hiding after losing to the biggest moron in the history of the US, that makes Dubya look like a grandmaster 5D chess player.

          Where’s Bernie? Doing protests, doing speeches, gathering people to stop Trump still.

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              Yes, he’s old and still fighting.

              And according to you, Bernie is unpopular because no one voted for him. He’s still going out and about.

              Harris and Clinton were unpopular, and they’re doing…?

              So is Bernie unpopular? Why is he drawing crowds and trying to fight Trump, drawing in more crowds than either of Trump’s inaugurations or any speeches? And if Harris is unpopular, why isn’t she doing the same?

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                  Right, Trump is in control of the US. Trump is actively tearing apart the government. He’s somehow busy wrecking everything and still whining on Twitter or Truth Social about how everything bad with tarrifs is Biden’s fault and everything good despite Trump is his success.

                  Bernie is still fighting despite his party not being in the majority. Bernie is still doing rallies.

                  Harris isn’t in any office, Bernie is. Clinton isn’t in any office, Bernie is. Same with AOC. Out there doing national rallies to build numbers to at least get a voice of “Let’s end Trump.” They haven’t left office.

                  Bernie is actively at least showing up to his job, and still finding time to go outside and do things. How does this invalidate my statement? Bernie is helping, Harris is doing nothing. Bernie is trying to gather people to stop Trump, Clinton isn’t doing anything.

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                    Bernie started his political career in 1981 as the mayor of Burlington, Vermont

                    Forty-four years later he’s rallying.

                    Trump started his political career in 2016 as president.

                    Nine years later he is still president and took over the US government.