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    2 hours ago

    Cans > bottles

    Yes, I am aware that cans have a plastic liner. This may have health implications wrt microplastics, but from an environmental perspective it is an absolutely tiny amount compared to bottles and gets burned off during aluminum recycling.

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        21 hours ago

        They could even remove the word allegedly, since they put misleading in quotes. There’s no need for both.

        Sigh… Modern web “journalism”.

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          I didn’t think you ever needed to say allegedly when you are talking about a law suit. The plaintiff is suing for misleading consumers, not for allegedly misleading them.

          But what do I know.

          They might as well say the plaintiff is allegedly suing the alleged defendant for allegedly misleading the alleged consumers and cover all the asses.

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    22 hours ago

    The plaintiffs in Los Angeles said the soda companies were claiming that the bottles were continuously recyclable, when in reality, plastic bottles can be recycled only once, if at all.

    How’s that work? Like how can someone tell a bottle has been made with recycled plastic?

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      15 hours ago

      Very easily.

      There is no recycling in plastic. They are re-usable (you can chemically turn them into something else) but you cannot just melt them and re-do some other bottles like glass or paper fibers.

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        8 hours ago

        I think I’m getting conflicting anwsers. Another person says you can melt certain types of plastic.

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      22 hours ago

      https://programming.dev/post/30203771

      Copy of my comment from there:

      TLDR

      Recycling plastic produces a substance which is more easily burned as fuel than made into new products.

      So companies can buy some of this substance from a plant that produces it from old plastic, set it on fire, and then claim that their products are some percentage recycled.

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        19 hours ago

        Nah, if I understood the article correctly they need to mix a bit of the pyrolysis material with a lot of new material and make a product to claim it’s made recycled. They can’t just burn the material and claim they’re making products from recycled plastic.

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      22 hours ago

      Soda bottles are horrible candidates for recycled plastic. They need to hold up to a decent amount of pressure and then need to last under those conditions for like 6 months.

      You can make a have decent textile out of it. You can make a subpar 3D printing filament out of it.

      I think the best use I’ve seen is to use it as an additive to plastic decking. It’s one of the uses where the color and texture changing won’t be noticed.

      A lot of other plastics are a hell of a lot easier to reuse in other situations, But for pressure you can’t beat PET and a PETE for cost.

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        19 hours ago

        Follow up: why are soda bottles hard to recycle? You suggest it has something to do with their ability to hold pressure. Why does that make them hard to recycle?

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          They recycle plastic be either hitting it with a shitload of heat/pressure and turning it in an oil (that doesn’t make a good plastic) or by chopping it up, heating it up with a bunch of dye and forming/forcing it into lawn furniture.

          HDPE, ABS, PLA are soft and melt nice, they kinda fall apart easily at temp. They discolor, but they stay structurally consistent. PET/E doesn’t turn into chewing gum when it gets hot, you can stretch it into fibers and they kinda stick together when you need them. Even using it as 3d filliment is hit or miss consistency+wise.

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      8 hours ago

      Its not though, they still use coca leaves to produce the flavoring extract and are the only company that uses it as far as I am aware.