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And I’m just here dreaming about getting one, with no chance of that happening anytime soon (or ever)… :'(
I was sceptical on how good it could be when it was first announced. Steam Deck 2 will be day one for me though
Seems like they’re making good on a promise of incremental improvements too. Really happy with that device.
I’m not gonna lie, I was hyped since the announcement, and the love for this device hasn’t died down.
I’m not a big gamer nor do I play on portable consoles, but the idea of an accessible portable console running a linux distro was amazing to me.
No surprise there. It’s backed by a reputable company, built well, supported well, and continues to receive updates that affect not only the handheld itself, but the rest of the linux gaming scene all together. Plus it’s an absolute steal for the money.
Other brands had it all written out for them, but they all opted in for a quick buck, with generic bullshit with no understanding of what made the Deck so appealing
Agreed, the ease of repairs and ability to upgrade the SSD were a huge selling point for me.
I haven’t bought it because previous hardware has been quick to get discontinued or support has stopped (steam machine, steam controller, steam link) and I didn’t like that.
Told myself I’d buy a Steam Deck 2 because that would show long term support, though.
I can’t really agree with that assesment of Valves past hardware.
Steam Machines were DOA, and anyone that actually bought one from one of the manufacturers likely got one that came with windows installed, because valve delayed the controller and software for so long the manufacturers pivoted to putting windows on them to be able to start selling the inventory. That meant very few that actually run SteamOS made it into the wild, most of them getting sold as just console-sized windows PCs.
And if you still have one, it’s just a PC. You can slap Bazzite or Windows on it and it’ll work just fine even today.
Both steam controller and link continue to get software support, and also function to this day. Valve stopped manufacturing and selling them, but support has not stopped.
No matter how you look at it, buying valve hardware has meant that even as it ages, they make sure it doesn’t turn into a brick, or even have its usefulness compromised.
Same goes for the Deck, Valve couldn’t brick the thing if they tried. When you buy one, you will still have what came in the box ten years from now.
I had one of the Alienware Alphas with the 860m and desktop haswell 4130t. You could swap in a 4160 but your big enemy would be heat.
I swapped the steam OS for windows and threw in some cheap 240gb adata ssd. Ran it for years.
Only problem was the cmos battery would fail every now and again and I’d have to solder a new one in because Dell……
Anyways, I was in it ~$400 and it was a great htpc. Only real problem was haswell couldn’t decode 4k YouTube.
The steam controller I still have, and it’s quirky. But I like it for the mouse function.
Was the soldered CMOS different than the removable one? I fought the battery (removable) in mine for a year or two and eventually just shelved it. Would love to get it running as a low energy emulation station if it’s salvageable
Yup. My Steam Link was a semi-cheap purchase when they were on sale, and over time their continued support of it only pushed me to use Steam more and more. I still use it today, and it was a big part of why I adopted the Deck right away.
I said or, not and.(“has been quick to get discontinued or support has stopped”)
Steam Link is kinda obsolete now, but I would have loved another iteration of the controller.
Fair enough. But that only further confuses me on how you came to the conclusion you did.
Surely it’s enough for a given product to either be worth the price one pays at the time of purchase, or not be. Judge a product for what it is, not what it will be. And in Valves case they’ve shown they won’t arbitrarily take that away at some later date. Your only complaint then seems to be that they don’t always add value with time.
We almost certainly are getting a second controller, but that will in no way take away, nor improve, the value that people who bought and still use the first one got and get out of it.
Surely it’s enough for a given product to either be worth the price one pays at the time of purchase, or not be. Judge a product for what it is, not what it will be.
Yeah, that makes sense. I guess it’s more of a principle thing. I don’t need a Steam Deck so it’s easier to distance myself making a purchase and wait it out. Didn’t feel like only seeing a piece of hardware be continued for a few years (3 years for the Steam Machine and Steam Link, 4 for the Steam Controller) based on track record.
Again, what do you mean “continued”?
The only impact the discontinuation of those devices had on the people who bought them, is that they can’t buy another. Aside from that, they still work. You’re talking as if the end of sale has some kind of significant impact that makes owning the product less worth it, or like the device ceases to exist on that day. But you clearly know otherwise.
If the Deck stops being sold tomorrow, that has zero impact on the one I already have, save for the possible decline in spare parts available.
There are lots of reasons to wait to buy something, but “they might stop selling them” seems more like a reason to get something you want to have sooner, rather than later. So that when sales stop, you have one you can keep.
If the Deck stops being sold tomorrow, that has zero impact on the one I already have, save for the possible decline in spare parts available.
Yes, exactly. Getting it repaired (both within and outside of warranty) and spare parts availability.
Software eventually too, but usually that takes a while longer.
There are lots of reasons to wait to buy something, but “they might stop selling them” seems more like a reason to get something you want to have sooner, rather than later.
Would you have bought a Steam Deck if Valve would stop producing them after 3 years? I wouldn’t.
Not saying you shouldn’t though, each to their own and all that.
Previous hardware mostly immediately flopped. Steam Deck has been seeing regular hardware and software improvements over the last several years.
If you’re waiting for Steam Deck 2, you’re most likely going to be waiting a while. Valve doesn’t do anything quickly or on a regular basis.
Yeah I don’t mind waiting for that. Not very susceptible to FOMO. I do think it’s been going better for the SD than the other hardware though, so I’m happy for the userbase.
Fwiw, I almost always get some amount of buyer’s remorse when I make a purchase, usually on expensive items. There’s some hidden cost or feature that isn’t quite what I’d hoped for.
Not so with the Steam Deck. It has been virtually everything I hoped for, and not once have I felt like it did or had something I didn’t want. When you pull the trigger, I hope you get the same experience.
I say this quite a bit. Whatever the opposite of buyer’s remorse is, that is how I feel about the Steam Deck. Hands down the best purchase I made last year, and that is continually affirmed.
Glad to hear that! I don’t really need one so it would be more of a spur of the moment kinda thing. Maybe when it’s on offer 😏
SD is here to stay. You have nothing to worry about there. It’s pretty damn amazing and what we have been waiting for all our lives.
I’m not even exaggerating.
support has stopped (steam machine, steam controller, steam link
Steam Link is still getting software updates. Steam Controller doesn’t get updates anymore afaik, but it did get updates for a long time including firmware updates that added BLE support. Steam input on both the steam deck and in big picture mode still supports it and still allows community sharing of controller profiles.
In general I think Valve supports their less successful hardware pretty well by industry standards.
The Switch is none of those things and yet still manages to sell 100x more units.
Orange juice is nothing like apple juice, and yet both still sell
And yet one sells 100x more than the other.
The switch has brand recognition, loyalty from decades ago, and ease of use (for the less tech savvy).
Steam has all of those as well.
It has exclusives iirc, steam deck “just” has the rest.
The switch also has coop multiplayer and a few other things going for it as well.
Switch is more portable and also easier to dock.
I’ll preorder Steamdeck 2 so fast my pants will fly off
I don’t know how to react to this
Proper decorum demands also removing your pants
With the gift of suspenders
Same, sadly there probably wont be a steamdeck 2 for a while considering valve is working on the deckard, I REALLY hope they announce it sooner rather than later though. I gave my steamdeck to my girlfriend and I’m waiting next gen.
Well, you’re probably right, but they could also work on two things at a time, it’s not like Valve is a single person…
I don’t think a deck 2 is the goal. I think it’s Steam OS. Third parties will be building better hardware and just throwing Steam OS on it. Your Deck 2 will be made by whoever built the hardware configuration you prefer.
Deckard is probably a means to ensure Steam OS is VR capable as well, which would also liberate PCVR from windows and meta as well.
I’ll preorder the deckard so fast my shirt will fly off
This is great news but I’m curious what it’s going to take for your underwear to fly off
Half Life 3
I’ll preorder Half-Life 3 so fast my dick will fly off
Wake up babe, new lower surgery tech just dropped
This is the greatest comment thread that I’m reading in my life.
I’ll order 2, watch me nerd.
It’s been 3 years ??? 😱😱
Dude it feels like a year ago maximum, Jesus…
It doesn’t hurt that a brand new console, the switch 2, will ensure new AAA releases will still be playable on older mobile hardware. It guarantees that the current deck will still be able to chug along with new releases for another 6 or so years.
Never overestimate the siren song alure of releasing the least optimized UE5 game ever made. Publishers seem to really struggle with that temptation.
Building quality products to earn money by providing value to customers, what a novel idea!
i’m glad at least one company is doing shit right
The main appeal for the deck to me is the ability to run games well on lower wattages. Sure the other options can run games better than the deck but it seems like you want handheld efficiency/battery life over better performance for less battery then the deck is the main choice.
I have 2 the lcd and oled. They are wonderful devices, I have had very little issues and the issues I’ve had are generally self inflicted mods breaking on update and easy to fix.
Seriously consider buying another one almost every day and the only thing that is stopping me is lack of free time. Wife and I usually co-op (or just play concurrently) on switch and deck but deck is really making switch redundant.
Steamdeck is great. I love it. On the flip side, I have owned a Switch for a couple years and hate it. I loved SNES so I guess I hate Nintendo Online.
I think every SNES game ever made fits on a tiny portion of the Steam Deck hard drive, if you can find where you stored your backups.