• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    non-binary wouldn’t fit in either existing category. The real move here would be to eliminate gendered categories since this isn’t even a sport and no gender has any distinct advantage.

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      While I agree in theory the problem in practice due to industry bias and sexism is basically only men will win

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      Yeah I’d have to say I’m in the “we need to keep the categories” camp but I admit I don’t know how we would properly acknowledge bi or non-gendered or anyone between or betwixt.

      And we should have a way because there is no reason someone like Bella (love them btw) won’t give an award winning performance as a bi-sexual or something and then wtf do we do.

      I don’t know the answer.

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        Women exist and are equal to men in artistic spheres. There is no reason they can’t compete for the same award.

        The need for separate recognition of men and women implies separate standards for men and women.

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          If Hollywood considered them equal, they would be paid the same as men for similar roles. While that can happen, it’s still the exception. And usually only happens for women who’ve won awards.

          When Hollywood stops basing pay on gender, then we can get rid of the gendered awards.

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            No actor is paid the same as any other actor wyd?

            They each have an individual value in the industry. Like if the rock is acting alongside Jennifer Aniston then the rock is obviously going to be paid more.

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              Like if the rock is acting alongside Jennifer Aniston then the rock is obviously going to be paid more.

              Dude you can’t write that and forget the /s

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            And having separate categories solves that how? You’re just perpetuating the very thing you’re declaring is a problem.

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              The current system is less than ideal, but at least with gendered awards, women have a shot at getting awards which translates into bigger future paychecks. What you’re proposing is that the same industry that currently ignores equal pay for women is somehow going to recognize them in a category against the men who are already getting paid more than them?!

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                This doesn’t solve equal pay, it just perpetuates the misogynist notion that women aren’t good enough to compete with men.

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                  And having separate categories solves that how? You’re just perpetuating the very thing you’re declaring is a problem.

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                    Is there a reason you’re quoting the comments I wrote back to me?

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          I think they were trying to call out that women are still underrepresented in a lot of different ways. Removing gendered based awards reduces the opportunities for women to be recognized, if you believe they are underrepresented.

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            Its not an opportunity for them to be recognized, it’s an opportunity for them to be belittled. Like “oh you’re totally the best woman actor, congratulations! Maybe one day you’ll be as good as the men!”