• stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      18 hours ago

      i mean if we were to communicate with aliens in another galaxy it would be the “least arbitrary” one

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        14 hours ago

        Wouldn’t the conversations go like this?

        Me: I’m about 2/3rds out the longest arm of my galaxy

        Alien: OK

        vs

        Me: I’m at the place where the CMBR is evenly redshifted in all directions.

        Alien: Huh, me too?

        • stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 hours ago

          I’m at the place where the CMBR is evenly redshifted in all directions.

          that’s not a place that’s a frame of motion (i think)

          the only issue is it’s hard to define an origin for that frame, so yeah it’s not gonna be all that useful indeed

        • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
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          5 hours ago

          Apparently it is just the slightest bit warmer on one side. It’s called the dipole of the cmb. I don’t fully understand it, but as far as I know astrophysicists don’t understand it either. ;-)

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            4 hours ago

            But how would you use the dipole to specify where you are? Isn’t the dipole the same everywhere? I’d think the dipole could possibly specify a fixed direction, but that’s hardly enough to specify a fixed point referencing only the CMB.

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              54 minutes ago

              Huh, you’re right. I guess at a position you can use it to define a point. A point where you don’t move in any other direction.

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          11 hours ago

          In the sense that the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) is visible from every point in space. No matter where you are you can determine your position relative to the CMB, making it a common reference point for the entire universe.

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            5 hours ago

            I understand that it is visible from all of space, but doesn’t it look the same from all points in space? Wouldn’t everyone looking at it simply conclude “I am at the center of the CMB”? How would you use it to specify a certain point?