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      I’ve read similar before. I’ve heard that the UK’s Conservative Party (Tory’s) are more aligned with the US Democrats in their outlook than the US Republicans. The Tory’s are generally considered our right wing (there are smaller more right wing parties though).

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        For a minute in Canada we would say “if Obama were Canadian, he’d be the greatest conservative PM we ever had”

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        The argument we usually see in the US is some nonsense like “you’re comparing the Democrats in America to the left globally, you can’t do that! They’re to the left of Republicans so they’re the left!”

        …ughh…

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    There is no two-party system, it is a uni-party, anything else is smoke and mirrors.

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      A quick perusal of the voting history of both parties destroys this ridiculous opinion.

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        Smoke and mirrors. Both parties represent Capital, voting is often negotiated pre-vote, including dissenters.

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          You can repeat “smoke and mirrors” as many times as you want. Doesn’t change that the parties vote VERY differently. Doesn’t change that one party got me affordable healthcare when I was young when the other one basically told me to go fuck myself. Doesn’t change that one illegally attempted to overturn an election and the other didn’t. Doesn’t change that one stripped women of a federally protected human right while the other didn’t.

          There are so many examples of the parties not being the same that there’s no other way to look at your opinion than as ignorant to the extreme.

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            They both serve Capital, and neither represents the people. The DNC is regularly pushing to the right, and willingly allows the rights of women to be stripped. They are opportunists, not agents of positive change. They only care about getting donations and serving the Capitalists that fund them. The GOP is no better.

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            Another reminder that blueMAGA don’t consider Palestinians human

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            You can repeat “smoke and mirrors” as many times as you want. Doesn’t change that the two cops treated me VERY differently. Doesn’t change that one cop gave me an assurance of a plea deal when the other one basically told me I’d be locked up forever. Doesn’t change that one slammed my face into the table when the other got me cool glass of water. Doesn’t change that one lied about my actions and assumed my guilt, and the other took the time to hear me out on my story.

            There are so many examples of the cops not treating me the same that there’s no other way to look at your opinion than as ignorant to the extreme.

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        On the political compass subreddit they called them watermelons - green on the outside (libertarian left), red on the inside (authoritarian left). I realize they’re not really left at all, but the authoritarianism is baked in.

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          To be clear, the Political Compass is a measurement of what the Heritage Foundation believes, not to mention the numerous flaws within the testing mechanisms themselves.

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            Do you have a source for that? The Wikipedia page about it doesn’t mention it and mentions other sources, which I guess could be tied to the heritage foundation but even clicking through links I couldn’t find any connection.

            I’m not saying there isn’t plenty to criticize about the concept and where they place particular individuals. That’s just the first time I’ve heard this claim, and I’m curious about it.

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              It isn’t a heritage foundation outlet, the creator of the Political Compass based the ideas of “libertatian-authoritarian” and “left-right” on how the Heritage Foundation sees those aspects.

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          Liberalism and fascism are the same ideology in different economic and social circumstances. That’s why the saying goes “scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds,” the underlying system supported by both is heavily based on the private ownership of the means of production.

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            the underlying system supported by both is heavily based on the private ownership of the means of production.

            This might be true but there are some significant differences between the two as well.

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                  Liberalism and fascism are descriptors for superstructural ideology sprouting from the same base in different circumstances. The liberal Weimar Republic quickly became the fascist Nazi Germany not out of a pivot in underlying ideas, necessarily, but due to the natural changing material conditions the same Mode of Production found itself in.

                  Liberalism and fascism are tied.

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      The thing about pissing your pants is that those cleaner will think you shouldn’t piss yourself, and those dirtier will think you should shit yourself.