• TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Obamacare, the multiple times in 2016, 2020, and 2024 when they were deciding on a platform and universal healthcare never made the cut. They’ve had plenty of opportunities to push it and they never do.

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      That’s because you’re political system is broken by lobbying. Fix that and you might start to see both parties make decisions for the people instead of the corporation’s and billionaires that give them both insane amounts of money. Money they need to stay elected.

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        That’s right, except without lobby both parties disappear instantly. My guess is social media ‘heroes’ would quickly take their place, same way it’s already happening in central and south america.

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        There’s the two sides of the Democratic party. AOC (pictured) supports fixing that. Yet the DNC keeps nominating moderates who refuse to give more power to the working class.

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      Recently, you, Americans, made it crystal clear that campaigning on universal healthcare will not get you elected. Numerous times. Obamacare was the last time the word healthcare wasn’t a ticket to losertown. A bunch of progressives got this stupid idea that if you don’t vote, things will magically happen exactly as you want them to happen. Then they’re surprised that regressives vote their people in power and implement exactly what they want to implement.

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        I find that hard to believe. Universal healthcare is the most popular policy proposal in the US for the voters. 60+% of Americans support it.

        Also, there has been numerous studies done in the last 15 years that show that voting doesn’t get popular policies passed. If the rich want something, it is more likely to get passed whereas if the average voters want something, it is unlikely to get passed.

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          It’s popular until the Republicans say you’re going to have to wait in line or it will somehow increase your taxes (or better yet: “this means your hard-earned dollars will go to the bottom surgery of an immigrant trans person who will participate in women’s sports and use the women’s bathroom!”).

          Then everyone drops it like a hot potato.

          You have to remember for Americans, they love being given free stuff, but the second they hear someone they don’t like is also getting the free stuff, they’d rather cut off their nose to spite their face. They voted for Trump not because they like him, but because they hate the left.

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          The way Americans vote doesn’t correlate with what they want. When the rich want something, they engage with the established systems to work towards their goal. When the people want something, they tend to ignore the systems that are made specifically to hear their voices, and do everything but use them. Then the system works as intended, and everyone’s surprised.
          We can’t really blame an average American, they’re overworked, uneducated, solitary, angry, dumb, and confused. But it is what it is.

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        Obama ran on universal healthcare. He won by the biggest margin of any president in years, or since. The voters gave him supermajorities in the House and Senate. Then Democrats pissed it all away by passing a watered-down corporate giveaway of a bill. They didn’t even manage to get a public option through, thanks to Joe “I currently reside in literal Hell” Lieberman. Voters then understandably didn’t come out to support Democrats in 2010. They betrayed everyone that voted for them in 2008, and then were shocked when they lost big in 2010.

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        Lol you don’t even live here come talking bout my politics boyo! get yer own house clean and shut yer fool mouth