You are on the internet how do you want to have serious discussions when you don’t even know who are you talking to. I may be a toddler for all you know it or some kind of psychotic serial killer chilling with a cigarette after the job well done. Like seriously people get the heck out of social media and do something actually that matters
How am I supposed talk seriously when you call my common sense a nihilism too lol. Just focus your capacity of seriousness for real life, thats the only sane way to go around. Or feel free to go insane on the internet discussing geopolitics with toddlers and ai and drunk college dropouts.
Enjoy getting baited every 5 seconds and probably be angry and miserable daily because you treat your phone with funny digital people so firkin seriously
Even this is getting too serious lol, like cmon I can’t believe I am actually doing this and every fiber of my being recoils right now saying “run, there’s nothing productive here, get the frick away and rain missiles from afar instead of getting involved in the pointless trenches of internet keyboard warfare”
I’m a science teacher. I have serious conversations with unserious children every day. It’s what I do.
Don’t kill yourself. Engagement with people through a digital medium is not a sin.
Also, if I mischaracterized your position in calling it nihilism, I’m sorry. It seemed like your primary thesis was “none of this matters, and to think it does is inherently absurd, so you should do nothing”. To me, that sounds like nihilism.
You don’t understand it, you are naive as a fresh leaf on a spring morning. Internet is not a platform for serious issues. If you have seen what I seen and know what I know from 20 years or more web surfing experience you wouldn’t harbour so much benefit of doubt towards whatever composted filth internet is made of.
After all this is the very reason of why we are failing as a species. It would be crazy to still treat it in any serious way after it literally implodes democracy worldwide from insane tribalism.
Internet must burn and people must lose the disillusionment that they have any sort of power or that their internet speak matters when it is only a box to yell at and thus be silent irl. We must collectively touch grass. We must burn this place and any other, such is the duty of those who know
And yes, Ted Kaczynski was right, at least partially though he had wrong methods
I appreciate your response. If you think that the invention of the internet is why we are failing as a species, that it is the thing destroying our planet, then it seems I have much more work to do. Corporate greed and political corruption are what is literally destroying our planet. I agree: talk is cheap. Go find a way to make corporations, billionaires, and corrupt politicians fear the people.
Somehow our world has gone to shit after invention and adoption of social media. Imagine that. Obviously it is something that needs to burn. Lemmy is the last thing to switch off but still it’s shit because it cannot be not. This illusion that social media can be valuable is the most dangerous thing to our society. Making us not fight the eternal struggle as we used to but use up our mental strength on pointless shit because of the illusion that it matters.
We set up echo chambers and circlejerks to feel good about ourselves and change nothing, we disarm ourselves
The corporate greed was always there and we always were fighting and struggling but now we can just make an angry post and forget about it or even feel good from the likes. No, we must burn social media to the ground.
Your definition of the internet as just modern social media is, in my opinion, deeply reductive. There is so much beautiful, useful and enlightening stuff out there on the internet, much more than any one person could ever hope to even delve, let alone hold within their mind. And yes, corporate interests have been behind social media from the first “like”. Does that mean that maybe people should go out and touch grass? Yes, of course it does. Does that mean that all social media is inherently evil? I mean, maybe? I’m willing to be convinced that even somewhere federated might be irredeemably corrupted by purpose and intent as a tool, much like the rifle and bomb up above. (I actually agree with your earliest point about how the block feature on Lemmy was likely implemented in that way to allow for minority opinions to have the last word, often to the benefit of Tankies.) But the entire technology of the internet as nothing more than the opiate of the masses? No. Just because you seem to be disillusioned by it doesn’t mean that all effort to use digital connections is futile, let alone that that is somehow causing all of the world’s problems. The problems we’re seeing today are just the consequences of the political and regulatory decisions of the last 100 years, from Ratfucking to the failure of Antitrust, from climate change to corporate capture. Certainly sped up by the vast acceleration in information transfer rates from the 90s to now, but none of them caused by it. Even the existence of Billionaires is a symptom, not the cause. The root cause is debatable, but I would posit that it is the laissez-faire capitalist perspective of most governments in the world with respect to corporate regulation in all respects.
Humans always been struggling against the odds and only through collective effort maintained a comfortable world. Hard times make strong people, strong people make Easy times, Easy times make weak people make Hard times and ad nauseam.
Social media addicted resident is prime definition of weak and pathetic, unable to do anything. Creating hard times for us all.
Only preserverance and intense struggle and determination can create a good world to live in. Make people lazy sitting doomscrolling and what happens is regression. We are lazy. We are weak. We are entitled. We are allergic to effort. We are stupid. Time for some wars I reckon.
It’s no longer time for doomscrolling but rather time to savour the last moments of peace delecting yourself in as many hedonistic activities you can gather. Sex, drugs, meaningful connections, money if you have it. Who cares if a cop takes your driving license for weed driving if the world is ending? Use it all to the maximum. Fuck like a rabbit, drive like a madman, spend like a king. Each day a bite of a fine meal.
Change your gender twice even, maybe every other time. Get married, divorce. Get a dog. Go to casino once if you weren’t
You are on the internet how do you want to have serious discussions when you don’t even know who are you talking to. I may be a toddler for all you know it or some kind of psychotic serial killer chilling with a cigarette after the job well done. Like seriously people get the heck out of social media and do something actually that matters
How am I supposed talk seriously when you call my common sense a nihilism too lol. Just focus your capacity of seriousness for real life, thats the only sane way to go around. Or feel free to go insane on the internet discussing geopolitics with toddlers and ai and drunk college dropouts.
Enjoy getting baited every 5 seconds and probably be angry and miserable daily because you treat your phone with funny digital people so firkin seriously
Even this is getting too serious lol, like cmon I can’t believe I am actually doing this and every fiber of my being recoils right now saying “run, there’s nothing productive here, get the frick away and rain missiles from afar instead of getting involved in the pointless trenches of internet keyboard warfare”
Remind me to kill myself if I reply once more
I’m a science teacher. I have serious conversations with unserious children every day. It’s what I do.
Don’t kill yourself. Engagement with people through a digital medium is not a sin.
Also, if I mischaracterized your position in calling it nihilism, I’m sorry. It seemed like your primary thesis was “none of this matters, and to think it does is inherently absurd, so you should do nothing”. To me, that sounds like nihilism.
You don’t understand it, you are naive as a fresh leaf on a spring morning. Internet is not a platform for serious issues. If you have seen what I seen and know what I know from 20 years or more web surfing experience you wouldn’t harbour so much benefit of doubt towards whatever composted filth internet is made of.
After all this is the very reason of why we are failing as a species. It would be crazy to still treat it in any serious way after it literally implodes democracy worldwide from insane tribalism.
Internet must burn and people must lose the disillusionment that they have any sort of power or that their internet speak matters when it is only a box to yell at and thus be silent irl. We must collectively touch grass. We must burn this place and any other, such is the duty of those who know
And yes, Ted Kaczynski was right, at least partially though he had wrong methods
I appreciate your response. If you think that the invention of the internet is why we are failing as a species, that it is the thing destroying our planet, then it seems I have much more work to do. Corporate greed and political corruption are what is literally destroying our planet. I agree: talk is cheap. Go find a way to make corporations, billionaires, and corrupt politicians fear the people.
Somehow our world has gone to shit after invention and adoption of social media. Imagine that. Obviously it is something that needs to burn. Lemmy is the last thing to switch off but still it’s shit because it cannot be not. This illusion that social media can be valuable is the most dangerous thing to our society. Making us not fight the eternal struggle as we used to but use up our mental strength on pointless shit because of the illusion that it matters.
We set up echo chambers and circlejerks to feel good about ourselves and change nothing, we disarm ourselves
The corporate greed was always there and we always were fighting and struggling but now we can just make an angry post and forget about it or even feel good from the likes. No, we must burn social media to the ground.
Your definition of the internet as just modern social media is, in my opinion, deeply reductive. There is so much beautiful, useful and enlightening stuff out there on the internet, much more than any one person could ever hope to even delve, let alone hold within their mind. And yes, corporate interests have been behind social media from the first “like”. Does that mean that maybe people should go out and touch grass? Yes, of course it does. Does that mean that all social media is inherently evil? I mean, maybe? I’m willing to be convinced that even somewhere federated might be irredeemably corrupted by purpose and intent as a tool, much like the rifle and bomb up above. (I actually agree with your earliest point about how the block feature on Lemmy was likely implemented in that way to allow for minority opinions to have the last word, often to the benefit of Tankies.) But the entire technology of the internet as nothing more than the opiate of the masses? No. Just because you seem to be disillusioned by it doesn’t mean that all effort to use digital connections is futile, let alone that that is somehow causing all of the world’s problems. The problems we’re seeing today are just the consequences of the political and regulatory decisions of the last 100 years, from Ratfucking to the failure of Antitrust, from climate change to corporate capture. Certainly sped up by the vast acceleration in information transfer rates from the 90s to now, but none of them caused by it. Even the existence of Billionaires is a symptom, not the cause. The root cause is debatable, but I would posit that it is the laissez-faire capitalist perspective of most governments in the world with respect to corporate regulation in all respects.
Humans always been struggling against the odds and only through collective effort maintained a comfortable world. Hard times make strong people, strong people make Easy times, Easy times make weak people make Hard times and ad nauseam.
Social media addicted resident is prime definition of weak and pathetic, unable to do anything. Creating hard times for us all.
Only preserverance and intense struggle and determination can create a good world to live in. Make people lazy sitting doomscrolling and what happens is regression. We are lazy. We are weak. We are entitled. We are allergic to effort. We are stupid. Time for some wars I reckon.
It’s no longer time for doomscrolling but rather time to savour the last moments of peace delecting yourself in as many hedonistic activities you can gather. Sex, drugs, meaningful connections, money if you have it. Who cares if a cop takes your driving license for weed driving if the world is ending? Use it all to the maximum. Fuck like a rabbit, drive like a madman, spend like a king. Each day a bite of a fine meal. Change your gender twice even, maybe every other time. Get married, divorce. Get a dog. Go to casino once if you weren’t