Seems to be a lot of talk here about authoritarianism.
Is demanding responsible speech over free speech absolutism “tankie”?
…because the US is demonstrating exactly what happens when you give free speech to fascists and don’t monitor their “religion”.
Never forget you’re speaking to brainwashed ppl that thinks China and Russia are evil and they are good.
I had the most histeric discussion with people asking to to cite one leftist policy in Russia like this the fckin Mordor and they do not provide healthcare for their citizen but instead send them to the mine or whatever
why do you defend Russia? it isn’t leftist. with China, we could argue about Dengism and whether CCP is actually still Communist, but United Russia is explicitly right-wing. oligarchs and mafias control the country. their foreign policy is imperialist. Dugin called for the annexation of many countries, not just Ukraine. Prigozhin had a Nazi tattoo iirc. the Eastern Orthodox Church is the de facto state religion. Putin is explicitly socially conservative. he lets Chechnia operate a literal concentration camp for LGBT people. ethnic minorities were the first into his meat grinder as the war commenced.
I did not at any point defend Russia by saying there is some social policies in Russia, it is common sense to understand that Russia is not inherently evil and is defending what it’s current leaders see has their country interest like every other country.
It is the same for US I do have the capacity to differs the people of US from what their leaders are doing because they think it’s the country best interest.
Now think 3s on how you see Irak war veteran vs how you see current soldiers for Russia war in Ukraine.
If you are not brainwashed are you able to tell me this the same and they have the same responsability in not going against their leader because they should know their cause is unjust ?
I don’t know this for a fact, but I’ve read, and a guy I personally know who worked in Russia back in the 80’s state that it’s just Russian culture to take advantage of the “weak.” They just believe if you’re not trying to get over, you’re stupid.
The Chinese put the good of the whole (The State) over the individual, and are highly authoritarian, and brutal when they think it’s necessary, to enforce that ideology. Obviously, those in power in will take advantage of their position, but not like Americans do.
That said, those cultural mindsets would be alien to me, and I don’t want to live in either of those cultures.
I hate the CCP like dick cancer. But unlike the US, their government doesn’t have to first please a bunch of billionaires before they do any improvements to infrastructure that might help some poors and less well off.
Seems to be a lot of talk here about authoritarianism.
Is demanding responsible speech over free speech absolutism “tankie”? …because the US is demonstrating exactly what happens when you give free speech to fascists and don’t monitor their “religion”.
Never forget you’re speaking to brainwashed ppl that thinks China and Russia are evil and they are good.
I had the most histeric discussion with people asking to to cite one leftist policy in Russia like this the fckin Mordor and they do not provide healthcare for their citizen but instead send them to the mine or whatever
why do you defend Russia? it isn’t leftist. with China, we could argue about Dengism and whether CCP is actually still Communist, but United Russia is explicitly right-wing. oligarchs and mafias control the country. their foreign policy is imperialist. Dugin called for the annexation of many countries, not just Ukraine. Prigozhin had a Nazi tattoo iirc. the Eastern Orthodox Church is the de facto state religion. Putin is explicitly socially conservative. he lets Chechnia operate a literal concentration camp for LGBT people. ethnic minorities were the first into his meat grinder as the war commenced.
you really think Marx would think Putin is based?
I did not at any point defend Russia by saying there is some social policies in Russia, it is common sense to understand that Russia is not inherently evil and is defending what it’s current leaders see has their country interest like every other country.
It is the same for US I do have the capacity to differs the people of US from what their leaders are doing because they think it’s the country best interest.
Now think 3s on how you see Irak war veteran vs how you see current soldiers for Russia war in Ukraine.
If you are not brainwashed are you able to tell me this the same and they have the same responsability in not going against their leader because they should know their cause is unjust ?
Are you high, buddy? Or lost?
China and russia absolutely and provably ARE evil.
It’s relative.
They’re just different cultures.
I don’t know this for a fact, but I’ve read, and a guy I personally know who worked in Russia back in the 80’s state that it’s just Russian culture to take advantage of the “weak.” They just believe if you’re not trying to get over, you’re stupid.
The Chinese put the good of the whole (The State) over the individual, and are highly authoritarian, and brutal when they think it’s necessary, to enforce that ideology. Obviously, those in power in will take advantage of their position, but not like Americans do.
That said, those cultural mindsets would be alien to me, and I don’t want to live in either of those cultures.
I hate the CCP like dick cancer. But unlike the US, their government doesn’t have to first please a bunch of billionaires before they do any improvements to infrastructure that might help some poors and less well off.
Yes I think you might have misread me that’s what I said US = good, China, Russia = bad, you = freethinker not brainwashed 👍
Thanks for your contribution