edit: muting this thread, goodbye.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I think they are probably talking about the community being in denial of China and Russia being a dictatorship, and the fascist/authoritarian cock sucking.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      4 days ago

      Russia is certainly a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, not sure anyone would disagree with that, the people don’t have power in the Russian Federation, same with the US. China, on the other hand, is a democracy. It’s not a liberal democracy, but the people have a direct influence on how their society is run, which is why 90%+ Chinese citizens support their government.

      Hexbear is anti-fascist, so no clue what you’re talking about there, nor why you decided to go straight for homophobic/misogynistic insults at the end.

      • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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        China, on the other hand, is a democracy. It’s not a liberal democracy, but the people have a direct influence on how their society is run

        Yeah. Even, if you disagree with the government, because then, you can still be democratic in jail…

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          4 days ago

          Not sure what you’re trying to say here, China has a much lower imprisonment ratio than the US.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              Your point was that China just imprisons people willy-nilly and thus isn’t democratic, but that’s just not true if we look at the numbers. As for the Uyghur question, no idea, the re-education program seems to be over or nearing completion so I don’t imagine its very high.

              • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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                4 days ago

                You forgot some quotes around “re-education”.

                Uigur question sounds like “Jew question”, which the Nazis named that way and tried to “solve” at the Wannseekonferenz…

                Is there even one entity that classifies or ranks democracies that sees China as an actual democracy? If yes, please give me a link. We all know that China is a one party country. If you disagree with the government, you can be open about it and go to “re-education” 🙃. Alternative: You shut up about it, which is probably what most people do.

                  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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                    3 days ago

                    You asked a literal question, that’s incredibly dishonest.

                    What exactly?


                    That’s a survey (quite subjective), but the results is of course interesting. I expected “democracy” to be seen as “bad stuff form the west”…

                    It also has a disclaimer in the text:

                    A note accompanying the poll results offers a disclaimer, stating that “in authoritarian countries, positive perceptions might result from different conceptions of democracy, high levels of government satisfaction, or fear of speaking out against the government.”

                    Would be interesting to see such a survey in Russia or North Korea.

                    With “entity that classifies or ranks democracies”, I meant something like this (a more object classification of democracies based on some criteria):