edit: muting this thread, goodbye.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Russia is certainly a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, not sure anyone would disagree with that, the people don’t have power in the Russian Federation, same with the US. China, on the other hand, is a democracy. It’s not a liberal democracy, but the people have a direct influence on how their society is run, which is why 90%+ Chinese citizens support their government.

    Hexbear is anti-fascist, so no clue what you’re talking about there, nor why you decided to go straight for homophobic/misogynistic insults at the end.

    • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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      China, on the other hand, is a democracy. It’s not a liberal democracy, but the people have a direct influence on how their society is run

      Yeah. Even, if you disagree with the government, because then, you can still be democratic in jail…

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        4 days ago

        Not sure what you’re trying to say here, China has a much lower imprisonment ratio than the US.

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            Your point was that China just imprisons people willy-nilly and thus isn’t democratic, but that’s just not true if we look at the numbers. As for the Uyghur question, no idea, the re-education program seems to be over or nearing completion so I don’t imagine its very high.

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              You forgot some quotes around “re-education”.

              Uigur question sounds like “Jew question”, which the Nazis named that way and tried to “solve” at the Wannseekonferenz…

              Is there even one entity that classifies or ranks democracies that sees China as an actual democracy? If yes, please give me a link. We all know that China is a one party country. If you disagree with the government, you can be open about it and go to “re-education” 🙃. Alternative: You shut up about it, which is probably what most people do.

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                  You asked a literal question, that’s incredibly dishonest.

                  What exactly?


                  That’s a survey (quite subjective), but the results is of course interesting. I expected “democracy” to be seen as “bad stuff form the west”…

                  It also has a disclaimer in the text:

                  A note accompanying the poll results offers a disclaimer, stating that “in authoritarian countries, positive perceptions might result from different conceptions of democracy, high levels of government satisfaction, or fear of speaking out against the government.”

                  Would be interesting to see such a survey in Russia or North Korea.

                  With “entity that classifies or ranks democracies”, I meant something like this (a more object classification of democracies based on some criteria):

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                    When you asked a question about the Uyghurs, and then connected it to the “Jewish Question” based on how I worded my response. That’s dishonest.

                    Why would democracy be seen as “bad stuff from the west?” Do you think Chinese people oppose democracy, or don’t know what it is?

                    Finally, “economic democracy” is a measure of how free Capitalists are to do as they please, not the common person. Socialist countries like China and Cuba that place firm restrictions on Capital, or Nationalist countries like Russia that restrict foreign influence over their economies, will always rank lower on a “freedom for Capitalists” index.

                  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    You are neither a mod or admin, so you have no idea who voted for what, nor do you know which accounts -if any- might be logged in from the same IP address. Once again you’re just making up stories in your head and flinging insults around.