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In a now-deleted post on Telegram, a hacking group called Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility for the attack.
Do you think it really was a group in Ukraine, or do you reckon that’s bullshit?
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Hello I’m a Ukrainian hacker capable of brining down Twitter, but don’t have a clue how to use a VPN to obscure my originating IP address.
He’s such a fucking idiot. Has he absolutely no idea how these attacks work? They are routed around the world many times before the final attack vector.
Jesus Christ, he’s such a fucking fraud.
The more I read about him the more I think he has no clue about tech.
Yay, and another one, welcome!
Musk doesn’t have a clue about anything technology. He claims to be worlds best engineer, but if you listen to him actually talk engineering since over a decade ago, it’s all vapid stupidity after stupidity
If you’ve ever heard him speak about your field of expertise then you’ll know that he is 100% full of shit and bluffs his way through conversations.
I’d say he is making up a reason to turn off Starlink for Ukraine.
I agree. The thing is also that Ukraine has absolutely no motive to carry out a DDOS of Twitter.
What would the positive outcome even be? Piss off the leader of the country that your asking for money/weapons?
Poland was paying for it and they openly said Musk actions mean they need to find a replacement
He’s going to “shut it off” when they cancel the contract.
Full on:
You can’t fire me, I quit!
Deorbit or seize the whole thing.
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Anonymous already claimed responsibility and I doubt they’d use multiple addresses from Ukraine, if any, honestly. He’s blaming them to further convince right-wingers that Ukraine=bad.
these people aren’t right wingers anymore. they arent conservative.
its fascists, collaborators, and traitors, who’ve convinced people they are conservatives.
Conservative means to keep the status quo. We have only had a few years without defacto apartheid in this country and that is the status quo that they are trying to go back to. These people are absolutely right wing conservatives and please don’t let them fool you into thinking that there is a difference.
Status quo is subjective.
My idea of conservative status quo goes back to the 2000s and early 2010s. What’s been happening since 2014 or so, is a clear slide away from that and it’s something else.
Elected officials saying the quiet part out loud is the only thing that has changed in right wing politics since the 2000s. This has been the status quo since the 80s at least.
And to back this up they registered a domain for their “Operation Dreadnaught” on Feb 2. So it does show some premeditation instead of opportunistic attribution.
The first “D” in “DDOS” stands for “distributed”, i.e. it’s coming from many places at once. Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.
He’s a propagandist piece of hairy shit
Actually not that hairy, you see the shirtless pic? He’s quite smooth, like a beluga whale.
This. And distribution is not even an option: such servers block IP addresses that send suspicious amounts of data anyways so the DDoS request must be distributed.
Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.
Fairly certain that there is enough evidence to support that he is both.
Distributed just means “multiple sources” not “multiple countries”.
Correct - but having seen them in action, well planned ones are executed from multiple countries at once so they can’t just be geoip blocked.
My money is on Elon not understanding how it works, lying, or both. Much more history of that happening than the other.
I agree, to me this feels like a red herring
Using basically any VPN that allows server selection or tor would allow anyone to look like their IP was from Ukraine.
Hi guys, I’m from Ukraine!
Article says it’s a DoS but probably means DDoS because nobody does just a vanilla DoS anymore (they’re easy to block). No VPN is going to let you use their service to do a DDoS, setting aside the technical and logistical problems for attempting it, it doesn’t really do anything useful for a DDoS.
DDoS attacks aren’t possible to IP trace, they come from a wide range of compromised devices forming a bot net that runs on IP blocks spanning multiple different areas all over the world, making them impossible to distinguish from legitimate traffic. The only way to catch who is responsible for a DDoS is to find the botnet’s control surface (usually something like an IRC channel) and gain access to it yourself. Not likely unless you find the malware that created the bot net and pull it apart looking for a reference to the control system.
TL;DR: Elon musk is full of shit there’s no fucking way he knows where this attack originated from based on IP addresses because it probably didn’t use one easily blockable and identifiable IP range.
That’s exactly what someone who was from Ukraine trying to look like they were from Ukraine would say.
/s
I see no reason to doubt your claim. Slava Ukraini! yak spravy, i yakyy tviy ulyublenyy dynozavr?
(On a related note, are there any translation services that are as good as that of Google?)
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/translation/
Better still: https://www.startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?query=https%3A%2F%2Fduckduckgo.com%2Fduckduckgo-help-pages%2Fresults%2Ftranslation%2F And use their anonymous proxy to anonymize their proxy to msft even further!
Nevermind the group who took credit, he’s trying to drum up excuses to shut off Starlink in Ukraine.
I wouldn’t believe a word out of this known liars mouth without evidence. It makes little sense for Ukraine to bite the hand that feeds them, so to say. It could very easily be Russia trying to frame them. Evidence is necessary!
How would one find evidence if the user utilized a VPN?
You don’t DDOS through a VPN. The first D is for distributed, you do it from a multitude of devices, often hacked ones from a botnet. So DDOS attribution is hard. And if you want some scale you reflect the attack on some other machine that runs a service that allow for amplification, making attribution even harder.
What would be hilarious is if they used starlink to ddos twitter, and that’s why it looks like Ukraine
at this point, why believe someone who can’t differentiate 8 billion from 8 million?
reading numbers is not his strong suit.
You see, Elon has so much money, that he never sees his wealth in the full format because it the number would be so fucking long, so it’s always abbreviated like 8,000,000K
Easy mistake, you’re just not rich enough!
It could also be China. It could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.
“It’s what anyone else would do.”
Wouldn’t it make sense if it was a Russian group posing as being in Ukraine, to further divide the US and Russia? I mean the Russian ministry of truth is already hammering hard at that bond. How stupid can one be not to see that?
It would make more sense than that Ukrainians did it.
Nah. Russia has been running circles around America in the information war. In Clarissa ward’s on all fronts, she talks about investigating Russian troll farms in Uganda that specifically targeted African Americans and stoked things like the BLM movement, etc. there is a reason why America is so divided. It’s why Europeans have started shutting off these things during elections, etc
Why do you write nah, and then come with an example that confirms how Russians do this routinely?
Is there something ambiguous about my comment? That state it makes more sense that it’s the Russians.
Probably skimmed fast and missed the “than”. Probably.
Or to put it another way, they didn’t even read a comment that is only 1 frigging line, before downvoting!!!
I misread comments all the time and sometimes reply based on the misreading. No ill intent, just my eyes playing tricks on me and skipping a word. Can’t imagine I’m the only one
Yeah I was half awake
I think it’s the “than that” is a little more complex of a construction that can be read over, and possibly missed. The sentence can be read with either of those missing, but if the “than” is missed it completely changes the meaning.
But if you actually read the VERY short comment, it shouldn’t be ambiguous.
Sad that people are so quick to downvote, without even reading a comment that is only 1 line!!Doesn’t matter how short or long it is. People intentionally write simple short sentences all the time with extra words that like 90% misread. The easiest of of these sentences to make are those that happen to have a word repeat after a linewrap, especially short common words. Than and that are close enough to fit into that same overlook.
Yeah I was half awake
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Except Russia uses X as a tool for disinfo, why would they attack “their own” infrastructure?
It’s just a DDOS attack, it’s not like there’s lasting damage. It makes even less sense for Ukraine to attack Twitter than it does for Russia. This is all too fishy and real evidence needs to be brought forth. Musk is a pathological liar with an axe to grind. His words are worth less than shit.
You didn’t think Ukrainians might be motivated to strike out at musk’s companies?
To play the victim card. When no real harm was done.
Chaos? To prove they could?
Russia is the reigning champion of false flags.
Their war against Finland, was premeditated on a false flag. They shelled their own town and claimed the finns did it Same against Poland. Although in that case I believe it was more of an opportunity to take advantage of the Nazis false flag in the Radio Tower incident that they used for their own casus belli
Putins rise to power revolved around a false flag, he had the FSB bomb an apartment complex and kill a score of people, only to blame Chechens after the first Chechen war, to use as a rally round the flag power grab and justify the second Chechen war. The Russians LOVED him for murdering the fuck out of Chechens.
And it was all a distant memory now, but the Ukraine invasion was started by a series of pathetic false flags. including but not limited to
- an “assassination attempt” on a Separatist leader in Donetsk by blowing up a 40 year old low end "limousine’. (it was a regular car)
- taking captured or knockoff ukrainian uniforms, and hastily spraypainting ukrainian camo patterns on their own vehicles since both sides used the same equipment back then, and making a fake go-pro video of Ukrainians invading Russia in early 2022.
- blowing up their own military vehicles to lend credibility to the second point.
*to be clear Im talking about the incidents that occured in late January and early Feb 2022, while the Russians were building up military forces and when they “recognized” the separatist states and formally moved their military into Ukraine, about a week before the shooting started, all of this was going on
Russia has always been a gong-show of shitty and pathetic theatre and drama for the cameras/newspapers*
Attacking your own assets to make it look like an enemy isn’t new. And attacks like this are nondestructive. They don’t actually lose anything by doing so. But some idiots will just assume that it couldn’t be anyone associated with the group being attacked.
Even if they’re nondestructive, they are very effective in a conflict that Russia is already deadly at. Information war.
Nothing brings dumb people together like a common enemy. It is Zelenskyy, someone told me. He had tears in his eyes and I heard it from his uncle’s cousin wife.
