• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    It’s funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

    2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

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      28 minutes ago

      It’s not that hard to convert a cheap 3D printer into a pen plotter is you want to do some 2D printing.

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      Idk if the tech for 3d printers is really more complex. All of the parts are readily available, basically nothing needs to be specially made except the hot end (one single metal part)

      The consumer experience for 2d printers worse IMO but that’s probably because I’m stuck on Windows with its terrible printing system

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      They’re actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you’ll find that’s exactly what’s happening. It’s a tale as old as time.

      Framework actually trolled us into thinking they were going to release a printer but instead they went into a market segment where everything was already modular, repairable and upgradable and gave us something that was not, at all. But hey, they gotta capitalize on the AI nonsense too, I guess?

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      2D printers used to be like this.
      They all worked with open, universal drivers, no additional software, and any ink cartridge that fit inside the bay.
      But then companies figured out that people will just buy the cheapest printer on offer, regardless of everything else.

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      10 hours ago

      Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer’s toy to household staple, I’d expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.

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        Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.

        They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.

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        They would have to become sci-fi level capable before they would be considered household staple items.

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      11 hours ago

      This is mainly because consumer 3d printer have been developped by 3d printing enthusiast first and not a company, Prusa which was leader for some time used a lot of open sources project to build their printers. As it’s getting mainstream as time goes by more and more companies shows up with closed sources project sadly.

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        Isn’t prusa now doing anti consumer / closed source stuff?

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          Aren’t you confusing them with Bambu?

          Their slicer is based on Prusa’s exactly because Prusa isn’t doing closed source.

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      Don’t worry. Companies like Bambu and others are trying to lock down shift their printer business in the style of 2d printer companies. I hope it at least happens very slowly, but the enshittification is happening…

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      Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

      Edit: actually, scratch that entirely. How difficult do you suppose it would be to create an aftermarket non-malicious logic board to drive the hardware in lieu of the malicious OEM board? After all, it’s not the cartridges refusing to print.

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        There are some projects out there that do the entire frame. Steppers, hotend, and control boards are out of reach. There’s some hypothetical ways you could do it, but it’d be far more expensive than buying off the shelf stuff and probably get worse results. Even the frames tend to take a lot of filament.

        It’s more of a nice idea than something practical.

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        There is a piece of software which will take a word document and convert it into an embossed 3D print file. So you could always just skip the middleman and 3D print yourself a plaque version of your document instead.