Not too much can be done, since a ton of the country sat with their thumbs up their asses instead of voting. Republicans control all three branches of government now.
In two years, after permanent damage has been done to the government, the climate, and the economy, we may have another shot at at least slowing things down via Congress IF people actually vote for sane people.
And in four, potentially a new presidency and Congress. But that could be dicy, since there’s going to be little stopping corrupt officials from screwing with democratic safeguards now that the government is teeming with freaks and degenerates under its skin.
Aside from lawsuits from Democrats, I think the federal government is going to be in complete freefall for the next two years, bare minimum. Thanks fascists and nonvoters. You really fucked the entire world this time. Fucking malicious idiots.
Because over half of this country has been convinced that acting against their own interests is in their own interests as long as they “win” some fantasy game. “We showed them!”
Because everyone else knows that criticism isn’t action. I think it’s safe to assume that no mountain was ever moved because someone criticized it enough.
Whether the democrats did or not- the conservatives DEFINITELY gave you a reason to. There was NO excuse to not vote AGAISN’T what they promised would come. So, those that chose not to- have no excuse that carries anywhere near enough value it would take to buy them out of taking responsibility for where we are now.
The democrats may have run a bad campaign, there’s little to argue there. But a bad campaign is NO excuse to allow conservatives to take over our democracy. They told us exactly what they would do. We all knew they would do this.
You didn’t have to vote FOR democrats, but you absolutely should have voted AGAINST the end of democracy.
That’s just bullshit, all repeating this does is enable people to not vote by blaming the democrats. Inactions have consequences and anyone who stayed home instead of vote is as much to blame for the current situation.
I do, some less savory ones but the “correct” ones are to unite and help, via a grassroots movement to mobilize the population. Show solidarity, and help groups organize to defend democracy.
Find some of your local republican law makers and “encourage” them to disown their party or quit. I’ll let you choose your methods, but “protesting” would be a weak choice. When you hit them at home, they start to get worried this shit might come back on them.
A large number of Americans far removed from the ruling class want fascism. They want it because they’ve been propaganda-brainwashed, and their feelings are hurt if you call it fascism, but they mos def want it.
They don’t want anything except to hurt liberals. Literally nothing matters to trump supporters/the American right other than hurting the people they don’t like. I am American, and live in a red state. The Republican Party gives 0 shits about anything expect for lining their pockets. Their supporters don’t care as long as what they do hurts women/children/gays/black people/immigrants/trans/anyone that isn’t a straight white man.
They see it all, what’s happening and where it’s headed, and they cheer. It’s moot whether they cheer because they want fascism or because their fascist brainwashers have told them to cheer. They want fascism whether they admit it, even whether they know it, or not.
Ever notice how when democrats are in power you never catch republicans being like “well what are we supposed to do?” They do absolutely everything in their power to continue to push their agendas. The Democrats and other liberals should stop being big useless babies and actually DO WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO IDK
We’re in this mess because First Past The Post (FPTP) voting inherently results in a two-party system, which in turn creates polarization and extremism.
To create lasting, meaningful change we need to move away from FPTP to Rank Choice (my preference) or Proportional Representation. Thankfully, the voting process is determined at the local level (state, county, or city depending on your location) which means the goons taking over the federal government will have a much more difficult time resisting this change.
We need people in local governments pushing for this change. Once we’re off FPTP a lot of other changes are going to be easier to make.
Did you just get out of a time machine from 2015? The constitution is broken and our government has been captured by bad actors. Shuffling around the deck chairs of voting systems isn’t going to un-crash the Titanic…
Edit: (as a more constructive comment) You’re talking about reform that would take years and years of voting, organizing and political positioning. We don’t have the time. Stop doing that and start pushing for a blanket recall of every GOP official in the 39 states that allow them.
At any level; state senator or local mayor. Throw in any Dem that cooperates with Trump’s orders as well. It won’t stop the fed but at least it’s cutting state level support.
As an example, republican legislators can target state institutions that resist Trump’s executive orders. Things like cutting state funding for not complying with his DEI nonsense as a double whammy, or ordering state police to support ICE.
They also know it’s open season for regressive laws right now, look at bills targeting LGBT and abortion rights. These will face almost no opposition all the way up to the SCOTUS as federal civil rights protections are dismantled.
And don’t forget that your state and local governments oversee elections. The false elector plots in 2020 were enabled by these people.
Now this is an interesting idea that I would like to learn more about. Any recommended sources or efforts to get this done underway that you are aware of and willing to share?
Theoretically yes, but the mods can still be corrupt. For example, we could go to your, ML, and be censored for talking about China in any way but positive. Even if it is pointing out the very very real event that happened at Tiananmen Square. Or, that China is not in the slightest bit communist.
Perhaps they will yell at me about genocide in order to get me not to vote so that Trump will win and they will be successful in overthrowing the west?
So, yes…. We ALL need to find an instance with no mods. There may be some rough talk, but at least we would be free.
We can have an open place to talk here too. The problem is who controls what is allowed, and what are their motivations? What we need is an instance that doesn’t allow signups, or community creation. Anyone can participate, but if can’t be defederalized because of bad users, like ML, hexbear, etc.
With no moderation (except spam), a small group of mods cannot control the message.
Can’t have the kind of free speech you’re hoping for, on a public forum, without also welcoming Nazis and child molesters and long rants about Lizard-people.
I have listed some general descriptions of things that I am doing that I have seen to make a positive impact on others, my community and myself that I feel could be accessible to others in another comment elsewhere on this post. I also am making a mostly open offer of support to anyone trying to make a difference in the form of resources, time, energy, listening, etc when I am able to offer it, with the conditions lined out in the post (be acting in good faith mostly)
So, fucking do something about it.
Not too much can be done, since a ton of the country sat with their thumbs up their asses instead of voting. Republicans control all three branches of government now.
In two years, after permanent damage has been done to the government, the climate, and the economy, we may have another shot at at least slowing things down via Congress IF people actually vote for sane people.
And in four, potentially a new presidency and Congress. But that could be dicy, since there’s going to be little stopping corrupt officials from screwing with democratic safeguards now that the government is teeming with freaks and degenerates under its skin.
Aside from lawsuits from Democrats, I think the federal government is going to be in complete freefall for the next two years, bare minimum. Thanks fascists and nonvoters. You really fucked the entire world this time. Fucking malicious idiots.
Because over half of this country has been convinced that acting against their own interests is in their own interests as long as they “win” some fantasy game. “We showed them!”
They can vocally and actively criticize the DNC leadership for being controlled opposition. Bernie is doing it, why isn’t everyone else?
Because everyone else knows that criticism isn’t action. I think it’s safe to assume that no mountain was ever moved because someone criticized it enough.
A lone voice of reason. Everyone wants to be lazy in November then expect the people who have no power to do something for them in March.
Talk about passing the buck.
The Democrats need to give voters a reason to go out and vote. The choose the lesser evil reason and keep the status quo isn’t enough.
IDK. When Hitler was on the ballot, I feel the lesser of two evils was a sufficient reason to vote for the social democrats.
Whether the democrats did or not- the conservatives DEFINITELY gave you a reason to. There was NO excuse to not vote AGAISN’T what they promised would come. So, those that chose not to- have no excuse that carries anywhere near enough value it would take to buy them out of taking responsibility for where we are now.
The democrats may have run a bad campaign, there’s little to argue there. But a bad campaign is NO excuse to allow conservatives to take over our democracy. They told us exactly what they would do. We all knew they would do this.
You didn’t have to vote FOR democrats, but you absolutely should have voted AGAINST the end of democracy.
That’s just bullshit, all repeating this does is enable people to not vote by blaming the democrats. Inactions have consequences and anyone who stayed home instead of vote is as much to blame for the current situation.
Got any suggestions?
I do, some less savory ones but the “correct” ones are to unite and help, via a grassroots movement to mobilize the population. Show solidarity, and help groups organize to defend democracy.
Find some of your local republican law makers and “encourage” them to disown their party or quit. I’ll let you choose your methods, but “protesting” would be a weak choice. When you hit them at home, they start to get worried this shit might come back on them.
Hard to believe the famous quote by Malcolm X for civil rights is now relevant for democracy; you know which one.
The one from 1964? I know it well.
Not a yank, just someone who will be affected by American fascists.
No one wants fascism except the ruling class
A large number of Americans far removed from the ruling class want fascism. They want it because they’ve been propaganda-brainwashed, and their feelings are hurt if you call it fascism, but they mos def want it.
They don’t want anything except to hurt liberals. Literally nothing matters to trump supporters/the American right other than hurting the people they don’t like. I am American, and live in a red state. The Republican Party gives 0 shits about anything expect for lining their pockets. Their supporters don’t care as long as what they do hurts women/children/gays/black people/immigrants/trans/anyone that isn’t a straight white man.
This is truth.
This is why I could never again live in the South, or South adjacent.
Brainwashed, yes. Want actual fascism? No.
They see it all, what’s happening and where it’s headed, and they cheer. It’s moot whether they cheer because they want fascism or because their fascist brainwashers have told them to cheer. They want fascism whether they admit it, even whether they know it, or not.
Ever notice how when democrats are in power you never catch republicans being like “well what are we supposed to do?” They do absolutely everything in their power to continue to push their agendas. The Democrats and other liberals should stop being big useless babies and actually DO WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO IDK
Democrats are loving it right now.
We’re in this mess because First Past The Post (FPTP) voting inherently results in a two-party system, which in turn creates polarization and extremism.
To create lasting, meaningful change we need to move away from FPTP to Rank Choice (my preference) or Proportional Representation. Thankfully, the voting process is determined at the local level (state, county, or city depending on your location) which means the goons taking over the federal government will have a much more difficult time resisting this change.
We need people in local governments pushing for this change. Once we’re off FPTP a lot of other changes are going to be easier to make.
Did you just get out of a time machine from 2015? The constitution is broken and our government has been captured by bad actors. Shuffling around the deck chairs of voting systems isn’t going to un-crash the Titanic…
Edit: (as a more constructive comment) You’re talking about reform that would take years and years of voting, organizing and political positioning. We don’t have the time. Stop doing that and start pushing for a blanket recall of every GOP official in the 39 states that allow them.
At any level; state senator or local mayor. Throw in any Dem that cooperates with Trump’s orders as well. It won’t stop the fed but at least it’s cutting state level support.
How does that help anything?
As an example, republican legislators can target state institutions that resist Trump’s executive orders. Things like cutting state funding for not complying with his DEI nonsense as a double whammy, or ordering state police to support ICE.
They also know it’s open season for regressive laws right now, look at bills targeting LGBT and abortion rights. These will face almost no opposition all the way up to the SCOTUS as federal civil rights protections are dismantled.
And don’t forget that your state and local governments oversee elections. The false elector plots in 2020 were enabled by these people.
Now this is an interesting idea that I would like to learn more about. Any recommended sources or efforts to get this done underway that you are aware of and willing to share?
Unfortunately no organized national movement that I know of. I only hear about individual pushes on specific people
We all have suggestions, but we get banned for saying them. So, instead of trying to get people banned, maybe suggest your own solutions.
Maybe we need to start moving to instances where we won’t be banned for saying that stuff.
Isn’t the fediverse supposed to be resistant to censorship?
You’re welcome to run your own, if you’re willing to handle the FBI or equivalent agency knocking on your door when one of your users makes a threat.
Theoretically yes, but the mods can still be corrupt. For example, we could go to your, ML, and be censored for talking about China in any way but positive. Even if it is pointing out the very very real event that happened at Tiananmen Square. Or, that China is not in the slightest bit communist.
Perhaps they will yell at me about genocide in order to get me not to vote so that Trump will win and they will be successful in overthrowing the west?
So, yes…. We ALL need to find an instance with no mods. There may be some rough talk, but at least we would be free.
That’s called 4chan. You want 4chan.
We can have an open place to talk here too. The problem is who controls what is allowed, and what are their motivations? What we need is an instance that doesn’t allow signups, or community creation. Anyone can participate, but if can’t be defederalized because of bad users, like ML, hexbear, etc.
With no moderation (except spam), a small group of mods cannot control the message.
Can’t have the kind of free speech you’re hoping for, on a public forum, without also welcoming Nazis and child molesters and long rants about Lizard-people.
So, religious people. Hmm.
And I’m saying that would just be a 4chan clone and that’s bad for a list of reasons I shouldn’t even need to rehash
I have listed some general descriptions of things that I am doing that I have seen to make a positive impact on others, my community and myself that I feel could be accessible to others in another comment elsewhere on this post. I also am making a mostly open offer of support to anyone trying to make a difference in the form of resources, time, energy, listening, etc when I am able to offer it, with the conditions lined out in the post (be acting in good faith mostly)
https://lemmy.world/comment/15420106
See my comment elsewhere in this thread for my response to a similar question asked in a different way.
https://lemmy.world/comment/15420106
It’s all theatrics.