I’m pretty skeptical about taking political positions from memes, and when I’ve done my own research on this, I failed to find valid reasons that this issue should get the attention that the Internet gives it. There are many other issues that are worth my attention. This one isn’t.
I love how you ignored everything in the article except what could possibly agree with your viewpoint. On your first quote, the link they cite does not exist anymore. In the video you linked, I hear gunshots but don’t see people running away from them. As someone from a country that saw unrest and shooting at protests, I can tell you that people immediately start running when they’re shot at, emptying the area. Not continue to March nonchalantly.
In the end, I want to conclude with saying that I didn’t deny that anyone died (although the comment I linked does seem to imply that. My apologies for not clarifying, as I was only using them to back up my opinion). What I said in the original comment is that it is not an issue worth my attention. I’ve seen and read about so many government rerpression, and this is far from being in the top 10. It’s an unnecessarily magnified issue.
I mean, it’s a variety of sourced quotes from respected journalists who were there. You probably should read them all, if only so you can point out to the Hexbears where they mention all the people who died in the area around the Square. The sources mostly say “no one got gunned down literally in the Square.”
In any case, it’s fucking weird to obsess over it. It’s like trying to give Biden crap about the Kent State Massacre while he’s rounding up all the Mormons.
Weird to obsess over it? This is an insane take. The CCP killed THOUSANDS of people at Tiananmen… they ran people over with tanks… they brutalized students just for doing what they do every year as per tradition since before Mao’s time. There are videos of these things happening. We dont need some hexbear CCP propoganda saying otherwise. The worst part about it is that they made it illegal to talk about it in open forums and actively scrub the information of this event from sites that their public can see.
They’ve arrested more than a million Uyghurs for their “reeducation” camps. Who knows how many people they’ve killed or brutalized.
The occupation of Tibet killed well over a million people.
The Cultural Revolution killed at least hundreds of thousands.
And there is simply no credible source to support thousands, and if you were literate and not an intellectually lazy dumb bastard you’d have read through all the eye witness accounts and noted that whatever it was it wasn’t the kind of massacre people imagine.
So yes, you dork, try obsessing over something on a whole different magnitude of fucked up with concrete proof instead of shit that’s not even in their top ten worst acts even with the highest guesses.
Thats actually a weird ‘whatabout’ that applies to the same people. You can talk about both things its just fun to poke at Tiananmen because they arent allowed to talk about it. They can defend Xinjiang activity or Maos conquest all day.
I agree with that commenter. I do not claim that “nothing happened”. I said this in my earlier comments, that I just don’t think it’s a problem worth my attention.
Numerous military buses, trucks, armored vehicles, and tanks being burned by the “peaceful” protesters. Sometimes the soldiers were allowed to escape, and sometimes they were brutally killed by the protesters. Numerous protesters were armed with Molotov cocktails and even guns.
I think the other comment on this thread addressed it pretty well: https://hexbear.net/comment/4003110
I’m pretty skeptical about taking political positions from memes, and when I’ve done my own research on this, I failed to find valid reasons that this issue should get the attention that the Internet gives it. There are many other issues that are worth my attention. This one isn’t.
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Plenty of sources provided in there (ny times, reuters, etc), but if you were the kind to examine evidence, you wouldn’t be here anyways.
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I love how you ignored everything in the article except what could possibly agree with your viewpoint. On your first quote, the link they cite does not exist anymore. In the video you linked, I hear gunshots but don’t see people running away from them. As someone from a country that saw unrest and shooting at protests, I can tell you that people immediately start running when they’re shot at, emptying the area. Not continue to March nonchalantly.
In the end, I want to conclude with saying that I didn’t deny that anyone died (although the comment I linked does seem to imply that. My apologies for not clarifying, as I was only using them to back up my opinion). What I said in the original comment is that it is not an issue worth my attention. I’ve seen and read about so many government rerpression, and this is far from being in the top 10. It’s an unnecessarily magnified issue.
Not even going to click on that, the domain tells me everything I need to know considering the topic we talk about!
I mean, it’s a variety of sourced quotes from respected journalists who were there. You probably should read them all, if only so you can point out to the Hexbears where they mention all the people who died in the area around the Square. The sources mostly say “no one got gunned down literally in the Square.”
In any case, it’s fucking weird to obsess over it. It’s like trying to give Biden crap about the Kent State Massacre while he’s rounding up all the Mormons.
Weird to obsess over it? This is an insane take. The CCP killed THOUSANDS of people at Tiananmen… they ran people over with tanks… they brutalized students just for doing what they do every year as per tradition since before Mao’s time. There are videos of these things happening. We dont need some hexbear CCP propoganda saying otherwise. The worst part about it is that they made it illegal to talk about it in open forums and actively scrub the information of this event from sites that their public can see.
They’ve arrested more than a million Uyghurs for their “reeducation” camps. Who knows how many people they’ve killed or brutalized.
The occupation of Tibet killed well over a million people.
The Cultural Revolution killed at least hundreds of thousands.
And there is simply no credible source to support thousands, and if you were literate and not an intellectually lazy dumb bastard you’d have read through all the eye witness accounts and noted that whatever it was it wasn’t the kind of massacre people imagine.
So yes, you dork, try obsessing over something on a whole different magnitude of fucked up with concrete proof instead of shit that’s not even in their top ten worst acts even with the highest guesses.
Thats actually a weird ‘whatabout’ that applies to the same people. You can talk about both things its just fun to poke at Tiananmen because they arent allowed to talk about it. They can defend Xinjiang activity or Maos conquest all day.
Plenty of evidence cited there from multiple sources. You don’t have to open it, but the evidence is there shall you question it.
Abother user made a very good comment about this under my post, might be worth checking out!
I agree with that commenter. I do not claim that “nothing happened”. I said this in my earlier comments, that I just don’t think it’s a problem worth my attention.
Sounds like a full blown insurrection.