• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    when utilitarianism seems less burdensome than whatever twisted knot the “genocide joe” folks have to tell themselves justify their actions, you gotta wonder about the choices they made.

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      2 days ago

      when utilitarianism seems less burdensome

      How burdensome was it to watch 40K Palestinians die at the hands of weapons made, and supplied, by the US, and fully supported by Biden?

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      2 days ago

      The carnage in Palestine is far reduced now than it was a month ago. I have no confidence that it will hold, but so far the only way that Trump has been worse than Biden on the issue is that Trump is explicit in his rhetoric as opposed to trying to sugar coat it. I realize that to Americans, who are only directly effected by the genocide in so far as hearing about it makes them sad, having their leaders tell them soothing lies means everything, but to those actually in Palestine, it doesn’t make a material difference.

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        So “not sugarcoating it” is supplying the Israeli government with the penetrating bombs that increase civilian casualties that Biden halted?

        Biden may have been largely indifferent to Gazans but Trump is actively hostile and will encourage the brutality in spite of other pressures such as the ICC, which we already see him pushing the ICC to relieve Netanyahu.

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      2 days ago

      Genocide Joe was actually doing ethnic cleansing, so far trump is only talking about it

      Edit: I guess trump is actually doing it too, they’re both equally bad on this

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          So you agree that supplying weapons to Israel for the last 15 months was ethnic cleansing. You agree that Biden and Trump are both pro-ethnic cleansing

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            24 hours ago

            If a known mass murderer asks for a gun and bullets do you consider it ethical to give them an assault rifle and 10,000 rounds and then refuse to even remotely resist when they proceed to use those items to commit mass murder?

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              22 hours ago

              I don’t, no. But people like the person I’m replying to have spend the last fifteen months insisting it’s fine.