Hardware far outlasts software in the smartphone world, due to aggressive chronic designed obsolescence by market abusing monopolies. So I will never buy a new smartphone - don’t want to feed those scumbags. I am however willing to buy used smartphones on the 2nd-hand market if they can be liberated. Of course it’s still only marginally BifL even if you don’t have demanding needs.

Has anyone gone down this path? My temptation is to find a phone that is simultaneously supported by 2 or 3 different FOSS OS projects. So if it falls out of maintence on one platform it’s not the end. The Postmarket OS (pmOS) page has a full list and a short list. The short list apparently covers devices that are actively maintained and up to date, which are also listed here. Then phones on that shortlist can be cross-referenced with the LineageOS list or the Sailfish list, which seems to be exclusively Sony¹.

So many FOSS phone platforms seem to come and go I’ve not kept up on it. What others are worth considering? It looks like the Replicant device list hasn’t changed much.

(update) Graphene OS has a list of supported devices

(and it appears they don’t maintain old devices)

Pixel 9 Pro Fold (comet)
Pixel 9 Pro XL (komodo)
Pixel 9 Pro (caiman)
Pixel 9 (tokay)
Pixel 8a (akita)
Pixel 8 Pro (husky)
Pixel 8 (shiba)
Pixel Fold (felix)
Pixel Tablet (tangorpro)
Pixel 7a (lynx)
Pixel 7 Pro (cheetah)
Pixel 7 (panther)
Pixel 6a (bluejay)
Pixel 6 Pro (raven)
Pixel 6 (oriole)

So Graphene’s mission is a bit orthoganol to the mission of Postmarket OS. Perhaps it makes sense for some people to get a Graphene-compatible device then hope they can switch to pmOS when it gets dropped. But I guess that’s not much of a budget plan. Pixel 6+ are likely not going to be dirt cheap on the 2nd-hand market.

¹ Caution about Sony: they are an ALEC member who supports hard-right politics. They were also caught using GNU software in their DRM shit which violated FOSS licensing in a component designed to oppress. Obviously buying a new Sony thing is unethical. But perhaps a 2nd-hand one is fine. It’s still dicey though because the 2nd-hand market still feeds the 1st-hand market and rewards the original consumer. Sometimes it’s clear you’re not buying from an original owner, like someone on the street with a box of 100+ phones.

  • houseofleft@slrpnk.netEnglish
    91·
    10 days ago

    I have a Fairphone 4 and would definitely give them the biggest recommendation I could.

    Any part can be replaced with a screwdriver which is an order of magnitude better than I’ve seen with other brands. I dropped and broke my phone screen and although I had to buy a new screen, after that I had a phone working as if it was brand new.

    I also got mortar into my usb charging socket and was able to replace the charging socket.

    You might be able to tell that I’m not the best at looking after things, I’m working on this but in the meantime, fairphone have saved me at least two situations where I’d normally need to buy a new phone. Can’t recommend them enough.

    • UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      9 days ago

      I have a Fairphone 4, as well, and I bought it for the very same reason. The previous phone was not a high end model, but it worked well enough for me until the battery just died from one day to the next. Was nothing I could do as it was glued and soldered, and there was no way for an amateur like me to replace it, so all of that still working hardware had to be recycled. That first made me angry, then it made me think, and I looked around and found the FP4 with its promise of being able to replace not just the battery but everything else as well, as well as extensive, long term software support. I have seen two major Android version updates already, and regular security and feature updates, so I am very happy with my buying decision.

    • Chewie@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      I wish I could recommend Fairphone. I bought a “2” new a few years ago as my first smart phone, and while it worked, it wasn’t very robust. I had to replace the “bottom module” (USB charging port and microphone) because it broke, which is ok, these things happen. Then, about a year ago, it went wrong again. I went back to the online shop, and the bottom module was there again. I went to buy it… “out of stock”… “please try asking on the forums”… seriously? Go to the forums, loads of people wanting a replacement module, nobody selling theirs.

      Soon after I get an email saying, “good news, android <some number> is now available for the Fairphone 2”, and they were singing and dancing about how it was a load of hassle etc. etc. to port. Great, but no use to me if I can’t get spares.

      Much to the annoyance of my other half, I bought a Fairphone 3. After a while that started going buggy and not charging. There were a few other issues with it, so I thought I would send it back to get fixed. When I read the details of sending it back, they said to make sure it was backed up as it will be wiped “due to GDPR”… wtf??? That has nothing to do with GDPR - that’s your poor data hygiene.

      My Fairphone 3 isn’t rooted, and I don’t use google accounts, so it would be very difficult to back it up properly. I understand, if it’s totally broken, there may be no way to retrieve the data, so you might loose it all, but that has nothing to do with GDPR.

      I’ve not bothered sending it back, so it’s yet another chunk of e-waste. A mate gave me his old Samsung s20, so I’m going to use that until it breaks.

      I really want the company to succeed, but at this rate, it’s cheaper and probably better for the environment if I just buy a second hand old “flagship” phone instead.

      I am never buying Fairphone again 😢