• Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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    9 hours ago

    It’s a numbers game. There are WAY more Jewish people in the US than there are Arabs (~7.5 vs 3.5 million, according to a quick Google search).

    Strategically, those Jewish voters are also more likely to switch to a Republican vote than the Arabs, regardless. It would take 2 Arabs (or any other Democratic voter) sitting out to counter a single Democratic voter switching to a Republican vote.

    Granted, none of this accounts for voter locations (because only the 7 swing states matter), voter enthusiasm, claims of national security, or (most importantly of all) ethics.

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      56 minutes ago

      People are downvoting you because they don’t like the outcome, not because they disagree with your argument.

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      6 hours ago

      Except a lot of Jewish voters are anti Netanyahu and want a ceasefire too

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        5 hours ago

        I agree. That was an additional detail that I did not cover, as I wanted to keep it relatively simple. I expect that the anti-Netanyahu Jewish voters are unlikely to switch to voting Trump, given that the latter is firmly and openly pro-genocide.

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          5 hours ago

          That’s a good point, but I don’t think it’s about Jewish voters at all. It’s about AIPAC.

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        4 hours ago

        AIPAC disagrees with you.

        Wait until after the election to see who really stands where.

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            58 minutes ago

            It is importance but it’s unclear why you are mentioning it here.

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              5 minutes ago

              Because they were responding to this comment by saying “AIPAC disagrees with you” implying that Jewish Voters = AIPAC.

              Except a lot of Jewish voters are anti Netanyahu and want a ceasefire too

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        6 hours ago

        Not at the expense of democracy, at least I hope. There is no other option this year.

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          3 hours ago

          And this will be repeated every election year from here on out now that the DNC knows they can get away with it.

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            3 hours ago

            There are other avenues that can be taken in a democracy between now and the next election. Ranked choice voting would be great.

            How would a trump win help the genocide happening in Gaza??

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              2 hours ago

              How would a trump win help the genocide happening in Gaza??

              Is this the only thing any of you can say?

              No remotely sane person is saying trump would be better. That doesn’t mean the DNC isn’t fucking us over a barrel. Sitting around parroting “Hur dur but trump worse” is just enabling them. After trump there will be someone else and the DNC will just keep following the overton window to the right because they just need to keep pointing out that the other guy is worse. Plus all their online enablers will just shut down any discussion by repeating “well you must love trump if you don’t like the DNC stepping on your balls. Yum yum tasty boot.”

              Newsflash they will never give us RCV. RCV would take this new powerful tool of “but other guy worse” away from them and they are never going to sacrifice that power.

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      7 hours ago

      Everything can be justified in this way.

      “Adolf Hitler identified he needed to blame all problems on Jews. And systematically put them in concentration camps. This was a political move necessary to advance his career and appeal to voters.”

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        5 hours ago

        To be clear, at no point was I trying to justify any actions. My only goal was to explain the strategic path that would lead to it. And of course there are additional nuances, which I alluded to at the end.

        Besides, a winning strategy is not an indicator of ethics.