• Jestzer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This would be a lot more accurate if Windows users weren’t constantly complaining about Windows.

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      This is a common thing in online discourse, and reviews. People aren’t usually going around posting “Yet another day of no issues with my computer”. There’s no emotional motivation there.


      I’ll take a swing. I’ve had no issues with my Windows 10 desktop since I built it in 2020. None of the bloat, ads, forced updates, OneDrive pushing. None of the shit people regularly cite as problems inherent and unavoidable with Windows.

      I did my research and used the proper official tools to configure it before and immediately after a fresh install. Used third party scripts and programs for messing with configuration shit as minimally as possible.

      I’ve only had to adjust things maybe three times a year, and most of the time it’s been to re-enable shit that the average user would never disable like printing or hibernation, rather than having to fix or adjust anything from an update.

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        I appreciate your well-thought response. I’ll give you my 2¢ and I want to preface what I’m about to say with the idea that this not a hill I’m willing to die on, it’s just my personal experience.

        On the contrary, I have accidentally ran into a number of people online saying “I’m so happy with the performance of my Linux box” but less so for Windows, but that’s likely due to the communities I’m a part of. I also made my original comment with specific, stubborn people I know in real life, who hate Windows and refuse to do anything about it.

        The time you’ve seemingly spent configuring Windows sounds like the same amount of time an average Linux user would spend to setup theirs. I also use Windows, macOS, and Linux daily and have all kinds of weird issues on all 3 of them, but for Windows, since everything is closed source, there’s often nothing I can do about those issues other than wait for an update and hope those issues are fixed. The same goes for macOS but the number of issues I have with it are very minimal in comparison. But at the end of the day, if this setup makes you happy, then I’m happy to hear it.

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          I feel like your right about complacency playing a big part.

          It does make me wonder if a user of both MacOS and Windows would be more willing to consider using Linux over individuals who have only used Windows. Maybe someone who has used multiple operating systems would be more aware of what could be improved in their computing experience.

          That said a lot of people seem to be migrating to Linux because of Windows 11

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            I think you’re partially right, at least, based off my personal experiences.

            My wife who despises Windows is primarily a macOS user, but she’s fine with using Linux, assuming I’ve setup anything “technical” beforehand.

            However, I think complacency will continue to thrive for Windows-only users. I think there’s only a small vocal minority that is switching from Windows to Linux. Most of the people I work with continue to use and complain about Windows, but are too intimidated by Linux to switch. I think the average Joe doesn’t even know Linux exists.

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        2 months ago

        Why?

        What makes Steam OS so special? I don’t really understand why you can’t just install Steam on literally anything else

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          I wanna get into Linux, and I feel SteamOS would be a beginner friendly way of doing it, since I don’t have a whole lot of time right now to dedicate to learning to do command line installations.

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            That is still not unique to Steam OS. Also Steam OS on PC hardware is going to be a lot less smooth as Steam OS is optimized for the exact hardware of the Steamdeck.

            If you want Linux go Linux mint or something similar. The system has a solid base with automatic GUI tools that handle the system. It is possible to completely skip the command line but personally I would do some basics as CLI tools are almost always faster.

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          Iirc that’s SteamOS from back in the Steam Machine days. I believe it’s a completely different distribution from what runs on the Steam Deck.

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    I used to advocate for Linux, because I wanted more people to use it, so that more software devs would support it. I care a lot less about that since proton came to prominence. Linux still doesn’t get all the support from devs that I want, but there’s so much great software available now, both open source and proprietary, that I don’t really worry about non Linux users anymore.

    So use whatever OS you want, folks. I don’t really care.

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    Yeah, but we can all agree that the world would be better off if Microsoft went out of business tomorrow, right?

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    Im here to spread the good word for those who need/want to still use Windows, look up W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC.

    Things it doesn’t have: Recall, copilot, ads, cortana, TPM requirement, secure boot requirement, ms store, XBOX and gaming services.

    Once it’s freshly installed, it’s like a fresh XP install, naked. Can even group policy to turn off all telemetry. It’s fantastic for gaming.

    Since they refuse to license it to just anyone, check out massgravedotdev.

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        I’ve tried that far too many times with both W10 and W11. Microsoft always finds a way to re-bloat. I’m pretty sure they have a team dedicated to making sure you get a bunch of bullshit bloat, and to find work arounds to however you removed it.

        Way less painful to start over with LTSC and then forget about keeping on top of bloat, AI, and telemetry.

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    Do they know people run Steam, Vivaldi and Teamviewer on linux too and could not care less?

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    I actually laughed my ass off at the downvotes.

    The Devoted are displeased with your me-me.