• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Oh yeah, I’m sure any of these cases were someone stopping to hold an active shooter at gunpoint and that somehow working out for them. Or maybe they used their gun as a melee weapon. Or maybe the attackers were subdued by being talked down over their common love of guns. Or maybe the active shooter ran out of ammo and came up to the good guy with a gun to get some more, at which point the good guy revealed they were actually tricking them into lowering their guard and put them into a headlock. Or maybe some other far-fetched bullshit that’ll let me equivocate over the fact that “good guys with guns” don’t do shit in the grand scheme of things.

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      Jeez, that’s a lot of words you needed to make a clown out of yourself, just because you are pissed by objective fact.

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        I think you’re pissed at the objective fact that 12/433 is fucking nothing and your “good guy with a gun” argument is a pathetic farce, so you’re trying muddy the waters by shifting the argument to a ridiculous, unfounded, unfalsifiable notion that any of the 42 subduers might’ve had literally anything to do with “good guys” having firearms.

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          I think you’re pissed at the objective fact that 12/433 is fucking nothing and your “good guy with a gun” argument

          There is nothing in what I said that would imply what side of “good guy with a gun” argument I am on and there is nothing in the data that says anything about whether the 42 people had a gun.

          My point is this is terrible and confusing representation of the data, as is often the case in any “data is beautiful” community.

          But keep kicking around mad that the version that supports your narrative is not the only possible one :D

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            2 months ago

            Yeah, so terrible and confusing that they didn’t mention guns in branches that don’t have anything to do with guns outside of a gun fetishist’s fanfiction.

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              branches that don’t have anything to do with guns

              Branch that doesn’t involve shooting the attacker.

              Keep trying. You will not get there, but at least you tried.

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            Thank you for standing up to the slavering morons around here about bad statistical graphics.

            All I’m getting out of this is that police are, in fact less than 50% effective, so we’d better plan on dealing with it ourselves.