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    For all the people that insist that both sides are exactly the same - ask yourself why it is that people that are overtly racist, anti-semitic (not anti-Israel; those aren’t the same thing), homophobic, christian nationalist, etc. all vote Republican.

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      I like to put it so the MAGAts understand - “Not all Republicans are white supremacists, but all white supremacists are Republican”

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        That’s also a logical fallacy.

        You are conflating lack of effective choice with active support.

        In an effectively two party race, where both arguably are supporting a position (through action if not through ideology) there is no option where you aren’t effectively contributing to said position.

        Vote either way or not at all , you are contributing to the overall success of one party or the other.

        “Our genocide guy is better” is really the only option when there is no other practical choice.

        Even voting independent just supports whoever happens to be winning from the two main parties.

        What are you proposing is the practical option for people who don’t want to be “in support of parties involved in committing genocide”?

        To be clear i have no good answer to this either, just wondering if you do.

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          Right. I really fucking hate this dude is sending weapons to fund a genocide. But do I want to not vote or let some asshole who is going to make Americans life harder get the most powerful position in the world? Absolutely the fuck not. No one should be having to make these decisions, but here we are.

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            Ukraine didn’t start that war, and all those statement you make are just Russia trying to project.

            Russia uses those tactics because they are mad the war wasn’t over in 3 days like they planned.

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      ask yourself why it is that people that are overtly racist, anti-semitic (not anti-Israel; those aren’t the same thing), homophobic, christian nationalist, etc. all vote Republican.

      There’s no shortage of racism among Democrats, particularly at the voter level. California has a super-abundance of liberal voters, despite being awash in police violence and the epicenter of some of the cruelest forms of slum clearance. NYC municipal and state leadership have demonstrated an unfathomable appetite for cruelty towards their communities of color and of LGBTQ.

      To say this is a purely Republican problem, you have to ignore everyone in the party from Joe Manchin to Lori Lightfoot to Biden himself.

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        Sad you are getting downvoted. This isn’t a boo both sides suck situation it’s a morality issue with white Americans.

        Clearly the republicans are much much worse but denying and ignoring democrats biases entrenches the problem imo.

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          It does appear that why though when we are essentially facing a dictatorship from a GOP candidate. Not saying that you’re not correct, but having a moral conundrum on the only reasonable party candidate we have right now doesn’t seem the right answer. But, I’m purely thinking of my kids future — what future they may have after this election.

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            1000% agree. It’s part of the entire problem. White people debating what is. And isn’t racist. Rather than a PoC saying. That was racist. And us internalizing that to make change.

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              Totally agree with you. I just wish the internal party crisis that’s happening in the Dems wasn’t happening because it makes me think that Trump will win. It’s hard because I get WHY it’s happening — but this is the shit that keeps me up at night. My kids deserve far fucking better (we all do).

              Fuck white supremacy, anyway.

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                Yeah. It’s wild how such an ideology can take hold with a vocal minority. I understand wanting society to be able to change. But I don’t understand people wanting to go backwards socially or environmentally. It lacks all empathy imo. Sociopaths all around us 😐

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    He didn’t write the line, but somebody did and it’s very powerful. I hope they got paid a lot for it, and I hope it lands.

    Leftist-infighting aside, governance does actually matter, and you utter infuriating arseholes are still my brothers in this. I hope we find a way through, and I know a single individual won’t be responsible for it if we do.

    Fuck all of you, me too, love you.

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      Every time that Ku Klux Klan has been involved,
      they wore hoods, so
      they are not identified.

      Under Trump’s presidency,
      they come out of those woods.
      with no hoods,
      knowing
      they have an ally."…

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    Online politics are such a complete waste of time. I’d lose all respect for anyone in real life that spends half their day bullshitting about politics online. That’s how you can tell they have no life.

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      Everything in life is politics. I had hate to be too simple to understand

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    I’m sorry but a guy supporting the Zionist ethno-Fascists who are way more racists and murderous than the Ku Klux Klan to the point of targeting Palestinian children with snipers, has no moral high-ground to use the Ku Klux Klan as example of horrible racist people because he himself is way much worse: his moral “high-ground” is the mountain of blood children’s remains with an Israeli flag on top that he helped build with weapon shipments and diplomatic cover for the Zionist Genocide.

    This fucking Nazi-loving disgusting hypocrite sociopath should shut up and let Kamala do her thing.

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        That too!

        Just as much a sociopath as Biden, probably more - Biden’s love for Fascism and Fascist violence is indirect, whilst Putin’s is very much direct: Putin is doing the deed himself whilst Biden is “only” giving weapons and support to those doing the deed.

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      zionists are not nazis stop dehumanizing people

      we care about palestinians more than palestinians themselves, most zionists want 2 state solution where as palestinians want only one state

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        Damn, you really swallowed the Israelian propaganda pill didn’t you?

        “we care about palestinians more than palestinians themselves”

        Do you even hear yourself? How on Earth can you think any person doesn’t value their own life? Let alone a whole group of them with the only thing in common that they live in a certain area.

        And the Palestinians aren’t the ones who make sure they are starving to death, getting dehydrated with no access to medicine, and they aren’t blowing up their own buildings.

        I hope every single zionist to be treated the way they treat Palestinians.

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          well in the concept of jihad. islamists think that dying and killing for the cause of allah is good and islamist leaders have also said that they will fight to the last palestinian

          look i don’t care about what who says our priority should be stopping palestinians from comiting actions that are counter productive to their cause, that includes armed struggle, which only results in them loosing everytime and that gives the right wing a green card to make themselves look like the victim to expand illegal settlement in west bank.

          regarding the starvation even UN agrees that there is no famine in gaza

          see this as well please please do not believe everything you see on ticktock

          and we need to stop villanizing others whether they are pro-palestine or pro-israel

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            Your extreme racism is coming through loud and clear in how you slander all Palestinians as Islamists and then use that to justify the cold-blooded murder of men, women and children.

            Only Racists make claims about the evilness of an entire ethnic group based on the evilness of some of them and only Extreme Racists then justify mass murder along ethnic lines with such prejudiced generalizations.

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                Your initial assertion contains no such distinction:

                we care about palestinians more than palestinians themselves

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                  i was refering that palestinians vote for parties that want them to die for their selfish cause that is only filled with blind hate

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        Don’t absolve humanity of its crimes by trying to pretend nazis weren’t humans. Humans are capable of monstrous evil, of which nazis are one of far too many examples. Another example is the sort of person who would defend a genocidal apartheid regime as caring about its victims.