"I want somebody who's really strongly pro-labor and understands labor, because this is a big part of the working-class agenda and making sure that we win working-class votes," Rep. Pramila Jayapal said in supporting Walz.
Polymarket has him pretty low. And Shapiro doesn’t seem like an objectively bad pick, but his response to Gaza protests and student protests don’t seem to me like they are going to move the needle in the demographics Harris needs for the WI/ MI/ MN trifecta. Its also not clear to me that “not-picking” Shapiro loses her PA.
That being said, I think he’s an Walz does more for the ticket. So if you go Walz, you have to lock in MI and WI, and MN. This seems very doable. If its Shapiro, he has to lock up PA. Like if she goes Shapiro and doesn’t lock up PA, thats the ball game, because you are basically sacrificing either MI or WI and you’ve lost because really need both of those.
GA and NC are both 100% on Kamala, obv, and I’m writing AZ off and assuming VA is fine.
That all being said, I think Kamala’s early moves and numbers have been extremely convincing and yet again I find myself without a weekend to dig into the Florida data. It might be that this is all hand wringing over nothing, because the grass-roots energy is real, and thats something that Biden never had and was never going to have. Biden has no base and didn’t think he needed one; Kamala recognizes the importance and is doing, frankly, a better than Obama job at building one. Obama had a whole campaign season and super-human charisma, with deener and doufas as opponents. Kamala has had a few weeks and a couple coconut trees, with an actual christian fascist movement opposing her. In-spite of that, she’s already at the scale of doing more with less, so in some sense I want to let her cook.
I think that Walz is the smarter pick and you might just have to do so to lock up the undecided vote and not leave that on the table. Otherwise you may have left too much hanging out there convincing yourself you can lock up PA when thats still a real gamble, even with a Shapiro pickup.
Edit: If she goes Walz, I’m pulling out a heloc and betting on her in polymarket. I think she lights this shit off and takes a commanding lead by signalling to the progressives that she’s willing to play ball.
Polymarket has him pretty low. And Shapiro doesn’t seem like an objectively bad pick, but his response to Gaza protests and student protests don’t seem to me like they are going to move the needle in the demographics Harris needs for the WI/ MI/ MN trifecta.
I’d say that makes him an objectively bad pick. It’s confirming to people who are finally cautiously optimistic that they won’t have to vote for someone whose support for genocide was a given that their optimism was completely unfounded.
Shapiro was also the first and strongest voice calling out Bibi as a terrible leader as early as November 23 because of his handling of this specific issue
I’ve got a friend that is pretty deep in their Palestine support, to the extent they are part of a social media bubble, and their entire bubble is full of articles and opinions painting Shapiro as an anti-Palestine, extreme Zionist, who is former IDF.
That’s the information they lead off with when characterizing him - no mentions of his criticisms of Netanyahu.
Michigan’s large Muslim population wrote off Biden, and the pivot to Harris showed a pretty big jump in support for her vs him. I think that Shapiro would absolutely cost her the race in MI.
Of course, the opposite could be true - Jewish voters (as well as the incredibly powerful AIPAC) may lean in to Trump if Kamala appears to be too critical of Israel. Shapiro could temper those sentiments.
Polymarket has him pretty low. And Shapiro doesn’t seem like an objectively bad pick, but his response to Gaza protests and student protests don’t seem to me like they are going to move the needle in the demographics Harris needs for the WI/ MI/ MN trifecta. Its also not clear to me that “not-picking” Shapiro loses her PA.
That being said, I think he’s an Walz does more for the ticket. So if you go Walz, you have to lock in MI and WI, and MN. This seems very doable. If its Shapiro, he has to lock up PA. Like if she goes Shapiro and doesn’t lock up PA, thats the ball game, because you are basically sacrificing either MI or WI and you’ve lost because really need both of those.
GA and NC are both 100% on Kamala, obv, and I’m writing AZ off and assuming VA is fine.
That all being said, I think Kamala’s early moves and numbers have been extremely convincing and yet again I find myself without a weekend to dig into the Florida data. It might be that this is all hand wringing over nothing, because the grass-roots energy is real, and thats something that Biden never had and was never going to have. Biden has no base and didn’t think he needed one; Kamala recognizes the importance and is doing, frankly, a better than Obama job at building one. Obama had a whole campaign season and super-human charisma, with deener and doufas as opponents. Kamala has had a few weeks and a couple coconut trees, with an actual christian fascist movement opposing her. In-spite of that, she’s already at the scale of doing more with less, so in some sense I want to let her cook.
I think that Walz is the smarter pick and you might just have to do so to lock up the undecided vote and not leave that on the table. Otherwise you may have left too much hanging out there convincing yourself you can lock up PA when thats still a real gamble, even with a Shapiro pickup.
Edit: If she goes Walz, I’m pulling out a heloc and betting on her in polymarket. I think she lights this shit off and takes a commanding lead by signalling to the progressives that she’s willing to play ball.
I’d say that makes him an objectively bad pick. It’s confirming to people who are finally cautiously optimistic that they won’t have to vote for someone whose support for genocide was a given that their optimism was completely unfounded.
You might be right.
Shapiro was also the first and strongest voice calling out Bibi as a terrible leader as early as November 23 because of his handling of this specific issue
Depends.
I’ve got a friend that is pretty deep in their Palestine support, to the extent they are part of a social media bubble, and their entire bubble is full of articles and opinions painting Shapiro as an anti-Palestine, extreme Zionist, who is former IDF.
That’s the information they lead off with when characterizing him - no mentions of his criticisms of Netanyahu.
Michigan’s large Muslim population wrote off Biden, and the pivot to Harris showed a pretty big jump in support for her vs him. I think that Shapiro would absolutely cost her the race in MI.
Of course, the opposite could be true - Jewish voters (as well as the incredibly powerful AIPAC) may lean in to Trump if Kamala appears to be too critical of Israel. Shapiro could temper those sentiments.
Harris better absolutely be thinking about these things in making the decision.
Pretty thoughtful for a tropical ding dong.