• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    The labor leader is the most centrist, bland, and ineffective dude I’ve ever seen. This is absolutely going to be wasted opportunity unless they non-confidence him out.

    Their platform doesn’t look awful but they need to make sure it actually happens.

    The tragedy of our age is that we’ve got alt right parties in countries across the globe gaining speed while “leftist” parties just continue to push neoliberalism that is crushing us working folks. In countries where real leftist parties have control (Spain is an excellent example) people’s lives are noticeably improving and their popularity is solid… in the rest of the world it’s basically this really shitty game of “Do we have enough power to keep the disappointing centrists in control or is this the election we go full fucking nazi.” America, Canada and France are dealing with this now - the UK will probably have to deal with it next cycle.

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      4 months ago

      Yea, in fact if Labour fucks this up, Reform will ride a wave of populist right wing nastiness in the next election…

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      4 months ago

      Centrism is what gets large numbers of votes.

      Obviously I hope that they’ll do well and make good decisions, but in a choice between a left-wing party that makes a principled stand but fails to secure power and a more centrist one that has more good ideas than bad on balance and does secure power to implement them I think the latter is preferable.

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        4 months ago

        You want to be like America? Because a two party system where the right party keeps going right and the left party, which is already right of centre, follows them to court their voters is how we get there.

        We have two parties. One getting more and more extreme and one that’s letting them, just like in America. People are severely underestimating how dangerous this is and if you’ve paid any attention whatsoever over the last decade and a half is should be painfully obvious that we are actually tied to America by outside influences and that connection is slowly pulling us off the fascist cliff after them.