• LeFantome@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    I am not even remotely religious. But I take science pretty seriously.

    Please tell me, scientifically, why you are so sure that people of faith are wrong?

    There is some decent science that prayer does not work. I am not aware of anything offers anything at all testable concerning God.

    And if we are simply pushing our preferences on others, I think a more important question is what makes people that claim to be evidence driven to adopt such strong opinions on things ( without evidence ) that they feel comfortable publicly slamming the preferences and values of others ( again with no evidence at all ).

    As a science fan, you can say that absence of evidence means you do not have to believe. Correct. You cannot say that an absence of evidence proves your guess correct such that you can treat people who believe otherwise as stupid. Incorrect.

    And “they have to show me the evidence” is a moronic stance. As a fan of the scientific method, evidence is YOUR burden of proof. For people that adhere to a religion, their standard is FAITH. So, they are holding up their end and you are dropping the ball. So what gives you the right to be the abuser?

    So, I guess my answer to “why do people believe in religion would be”, “well, people still have faith and tradition and science has not produced any evidence that credibly calls that into question”.

    Why are people not arriving at this conclusion on their own in 2024? Why have we failed so badly to explain the scientific method that people can still make wild pronouncements like this one.

    I don’t like religion because it makes people easy to manipulate. People that treat science like a religion exhibit the same problems. I am not a fan of that.

    • EurekaStockade@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Please tell me, scientifically, why you are so sure that people of faith are wrong?

      Because they all offer competing and mutually exclusive hypotheses.

      Christianity tells us that the one true path to salvation is by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and saviour.

      Hinduism tells us that our next life will take place in this world, based on our actions in this life.

      Islam tells us that Mohammed is the one true prophet.

      Buddhism says that there are no prophets, enlightenment only comes from within.

      They make contradictory claims, so by definition they can’t all be right, and they typically claim that they are correct and the other explanations are false, so even if one religion is correct, the rest (comprising of the majority of the faithful) must be wrong.