I am going to go out on a limb and say that they like Debian but dislike systemd.

I cannot wait until GNU HURD is ready and the GNU/Linux crowd migrates to it.

The rest of us can then replace Glibc with musl, GNU utils with UUtils, GCC with Clang and we will not have to listen to this GNU/Linux crap anymore.

I mean, all the GNU stuff is great and I use them all the time. But it is ridiculous in 2026 that people want to brand the entire OS with the makers of 3% of the packages (all of which have world-class alternatives). Especially since almost all of those packages are majority authored by Red Hat.

GNU is great and massively important historically. But the end of the GNU/Linux nonsense cannot come fast enough.

Devuan objects to some of the engineering choices in Debian, like systemd.

The authors of this project are clearly not systemd fans.

Most of the fundamental packages in your Linux distribution are primarily written by Red Hat. Do you use Glibc, GCC, gnu utils, systemd, GNOME, podman, pipewire, Wayland, Xorg, or Flatpak for starters?

Red Hat is hardly a free rider in the open source world.

It is also worth noting that Red Hat created the Fedora Project. They created it so they could have RHEL (corporate) and Fedora (community) instead of just Red Hat Linux which they had before.

It always makes me laugh when people worry about Red Hat “taking Fedora corporate”. Fedora was created explicitly to be the community offering and is a key part of the Red Hat strategy. I guess not everybody knows their Linux history.

Many of the Fedora leaders and maintainers are Red Hat employees.

As for US influence, that has always been a thing. US law dominates the thinking. What you really need to worry about is the Linux Foundation.

Why not?

Canada should join with most European initiatives.

Why is it easier to integrate to the US than to Europe?

They do not need anybody else. They have said it many times.

So be it. Honestly, the entire world needs to completely pivot away. Completely.

Why would we try to stop this. Leave it closed.

They already gave them the “inadvertent” out

Especially since these devices are useless on their own. The cost to the rightful owner is high. The benefit to the thief is low.

True asshole crime. Basically vandalism.

Assuming in bad faith is indeed a character flaw.

Concluding after sober analysis of significant clear evidence is not. In fact, ignoring clear evidence in order to signal your neutrality is the character flaw.

Do not apologize.

Well, Trump and Bessant are courting pretty much the same group that attended this meeting. They want them to succeed from Canada.

So, you are not wrong.

As they say in the US: “rules for thee but not for me”

All these laws are meant to apply to “other people”

Arch should have this in a few days to a couple of weeks.

This guy is so glaringly unintelligent that he makes Trump seem smarter.

Many of us Canadians still have some Scottish blood. And I bet it works as well as it ever did.

What did you replace Xorg with 10 years ago?

I am not the biggest Richard Stallman fan, and this was also my first thought. But in the interest of truth, it is very unfair to portray him this way.

What Stallman argued for was correctness. He is guilty of pedantry, not pedophilia. Did he do it badly. Yes. Was it a socially risky position to take? For sure. Is he a child predator? Not based on any evidence I have seen.

There are actual child predators out there. Let’s focus on them.

By “shares some of the same codebae”, I assume that you mean both COSMIC and Niri use the Smithay Wayland support library? Or that both Niri and GNOME use xdg-desktop-portal-gnome?

Interesting that you are using PaperWM but recommending Niri.

I wish I saw your comment earlier. I agree.

Let’s be honest, the US would beat us on both quantity and tech.

However, spending less per unit would go a long way to closing the gap. And the operating costs are even more dramatic. Canada could have pilots training around the clock flying Gripens for the cost of occasionally relocating the F-35. The cost difference is nuts.

And I really do not think the Gripen is that far behind the F-35 in the real world.

But the US military budget is just stupid. They could have an F-35 fly around the world for a month being constantly refueled in flight and it might not get its own line item in the expense report.